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  1. Thanks, I agree. The car body (cowl tag and VIN) say 1970. The front end, engine, rear taillights and trim all say 1971. The dash also looks like 1971 with the knobs etc but the dome light is 1970. The owner was going to see if he had the info on it being the last Monte but he was an older gent and most likely took the previous owners word on this. When we agreed on a price we shook hands, old school, like my father taught me ( the way all deals should be done). I get the car later this week. I did expose the block number but just quick enough to verify the last 4 digits did not match the VIN. The paint color does match the code on the cowl, green mist. It’s a good solid driver that I can take to any cruise or show. It’s not concours, didn’t pay enough for that. This is my first venture into owning a vintage muscle car. My other vehicles have always been Grand Nationals (still have one). The have always loved these Montes, they have style. I’m already looking for a console for this car to complete the buckets already in it. More pics later this week.
  2. Awesome, thanks. I will check both those things when I get it home later this week.
  3. UPDATE !! Ok, went to see the car.....drum roll please...I bought it! The cowl tag supports the VIN as it being a 1970 built in Flint, Michigan. The power train is not numbers matching (didn’t think it would be) the last 4 digits on the block did not match the VIN. The powertrain appears to be out of a 1971, it’s a 454 with TH 400 and 12 bolt posi. It runs great, handles well and goes like a scared rabbit. It was reported to be originally from Texas, underneath is so incredibly clean. Seller says the posi is 2:56, it idles nice at 50 mph and is a little sluggish off the line so I suspect that’s true. Interior has Strato buckets, no console. It has some issues, blower fan not running, ac missing the condenser. It has power windows, all work. The fenders have the “stepped” mounting at the rad support, I think this means they are 1970? Anyway, what I bought was a nice 1970 Monte that I suspect will be hard (or impossible) to prove what it was born as. It looks to have a 1971 454SS powertrain and trim. It runs great and looks great. All this for less than the price of a basic Monte with a 350. Its not a pure bread but then again, l myself am a “mutt”. Thanks everyone for your help.
  4. Awesome information everyone, thanks so much. Sorry, the full VIN is 138570F102710 (I’ll verify tomorrow and take a picture of the plate.) I’m thinking this car is a 1971. He sent me a copy of the rad support emissions decal to show it displayed the engine as a 454. I enlarged it on my iPad and in small print at the bottom it says “ this vehicle conforms to .......emissions....1971 model year....”. The only anomaly is the halo roof that could have easily been done during a repaint.
  5. Thanks, awesome feedback. it has the leveling compressor, rear shock guards and black plastic lines. At least that’s what he told me, I’ll see it tomorrow. Do you know if the air cleaner decal was the same from 70 to 71? This one has the larger decal that is gray and white with 454 in big letters. I thought that was only used in 71. Everything on this car screams 1971 except the halo roof. I did read that the halo was only the first half of the year but also read some plants did it later as well (if they had the trim pieces). If the engine is not numbers matching and he has no documentation is there any way to tell it was built as an SS454? It also has Strato buckets with column shift, I read you could order buckets without console but without a build sheet I don’t know how you would prove that. As far as him saying it was the “last Monte” built in 1970, the last digits of the VIN are 102710. I don’t think it’s high enough.
  6. Hey everyone, I’m new to the family. I’m looking at a car VIN'd as a 1970 (6th digit is a 0). Owner says ownership also says it is a 1970. Here’s the thing, the bumper, headlights bezels, hood spear with ornament, rear bumper panel, taillights, trunk lock trim, and black SS panel, button door panels on the car are all 1971 features. The owner says he found documentation that has this was the last car built in 1970. Is it possible they used 1971 parts? I find it hard to believe someone would go to the effort to convert it. Another strange thing about the car is that it has a halo vinyl roof. That is the only thing on the car that says “1970”. I’m going to check if it has the numbers matching block. It does have the air compressor and black air lines, air shocks and shock protectors. I love these cars. Any help is greatly appreciated!!
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