Guest Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 I have this posted in the Comments/Suggestions area, but I know everyone does not visit that area, so here it is in this section also. Hi everyone, I need to address the issue about the size of signature pictures. We are getting some really big pictures in them lately, and that is not all to fair to our members who use slower connections, plus it uses up bandwidth. So we would like to make a size limit on signature pictures of 250x175 pixels. Pictures that are a part of a posting is another situation because most of the time those are used to show detail on a specific subject. So basically those are exempt, but please dont have them obnoxiously huge. We do hope that everyone understands why we are requesting this, we want to make Http://www.firstgenmc.com a pleasure for everyone to enjoy. Thank You, Pete ------------------ Trying is the first step tward failure...Homer Simpson 1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo My Monte Carlo Page Pete@firstgenmc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightTime007 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Pete, How about if the image is reduced in size to 17kb regardless of pixel size? Computer Graphics was my job for a few years and I can manipulate an image to look quite good and still keep it at less than 25 kb. Most images of the pixel resoultion you stated are at least 25kb in size. If not, I understand, just thought I'd ask since the issue is bandwidth, not resolution. Also, No need for apologies for the flame war Pixtar has started in the Engine discussion thread. I know how that goes, I run several message boards myself. Many thanks for all the help and info I have received here so far. I will be definetly be joining next paycheck. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightTime007 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Quote: <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Pete_72_Monte:I have this posted in the Comments/Suggestions area, but I know everyone does not visit that area, so here it is in this section also. Hi everyone, I need to address the issue about the size of signature pictures. We are getting some really big pictures in them lately, and that is not all to fair to our members who use slower connections, plus it uses up bandwidth. So we would like to make a size limit on signature pictures of 250x175 pixels. Pictures that are a part of a posting is another situation because most of the time those are used to show detail on a specific subject. So basically those are exempt, but please dont have them obnoxiously huge. We do hope that everyone understands why we are requesting this, we want to make Http://www.firstgenmc.com a pleasure for everyone to enjoy. Thank You, Pete</font> Also here is a photo of my Monte reduced to 18kb in size ------------------ KnightTime007 Pensacola, Florida 72 Monte original 1 owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Great idea Charlie! I just don't know if everyone out here knows how to do that though. Would this also help in the loading aspect for dialup users? That is also a huge part. Perhaps a max kb of 50kb and 250x175 pixel size members choice? Kevin, Lucky, Joe, and all other officers...what do you guys think? Quote: <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by KnightTime007: Pete, How about if the image is reduced in size to 17kb regardless of pixel size? Computer Graphics was my job for a few years and I can manipulate an image to look quite good and still keep it at less than 25 kb. Most images of the pixel resoultion you stated are at least 25kb in size. If not, I understand, just thought I'd ask since the issue is bandwidth, not resolution. Charlie</font> ------------------ Trying is the first step tward failure...Homer Simpson 1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo My Monte Carlo Page Pete@firstgenmc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightTime007 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 If your goal is to reduce load times for pages and reduce bandwidth usage, then limiting image size in kb (kilobytes) would definetly be the more prudent target. Pixel dimensions are an indication of image size(viewable dimensions), but the file size still can vary greatly depending on the resolution of the image (color depth). A reduction in bandwidth consumption, and therfore faster page load times for dialup users, would be better accomplished by limiting filesize (kb). Also, JPG filetypes (files that end in a JPG extension are usually the smaller image types (vs. BMP or most other formats). Just my two cents worth, I'm certainly not trying to set any board policy here! Charlie ------------------ KnightTime007 Pensacola, Florida 72 Monte original 1 owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 But you are helping to make it...lol Quote: <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by KnightTime007: I'm certainly not trying to set any board policy here! Charlie </font> ------------------ Trying is the first step tward failure...Homer Simpson 1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo My Monte Carlo Page Pete@firstgenmc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarchieB Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Please correct me if I'm wrong but if you can put a pic in a sig then it must be on a server somewhere right. Therefore why can't members just put a smaller thumbnail size pic in there sig and link it to their server pic or website. I was creating my sig today and then read Pete's thoughts and so I did just this. My pic is small but still big enough about the same as Pete's and is less than 10kb, 7.7 to be exact. Also I have no problems with reducing the image quality and therefore the kb's of the image as knighttime007 mentioned. ------------------ <IMG SRC=\"http://member...t;> 1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 402 Custom [This message has been edited by MarchieB (edited 09-25-2002).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallaby Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Maybe if we only post pictures of primered or faded cars, then we wouldn't have such a "color depth" problem as we do with those shiny clear-coated cars. I use one of those "once-a-year no buffing" car finishes, and forgot to do it the last couple of times. Even in real-life, my car has pretty low resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightTime007 Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Yes, the images in a Signature must be stored on a server external to FGMC. You are correct, a thumbnail is a just a reduction in the dimensions (height and width) of a larger image, resulting in an image of smaller file size. The file size of an image can also be reduced without altering the dimensions of the image. This method reduces the number of colors contained in the image. Dimensionally larger images can retain their visual size, and still be reduced in file size. There is a sacrafice of clarity when reducing colors depth as overdoing it results in a grainy and somewhat fuzzy appearance. Originally, the picture of my Monte is 289kb, but by reduction of resolution (colors), I have compressed it to 17kb. Charlie ------------------ KnightTime007 Pensacola, Florida 72 Monte original 1 owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteman1972 Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 As I am not a computer expert and it took me over a week to get my picture to work when I posted a message, I would like to make mine smaller to help out. If any of you can do this for me I don't mind you making it smaller. I just don't want to mess it up and go back to square one and start over trying to post it. If it helps the club out I am all for it. Thanks, Jack ------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 I think the pictures should have a maximum width such that the message board is not wider than the screen (no offense Charlie ). The messages are hard to read when you have to go back and forth. That's my 2 cents. I also wanted to ask if mine is an OK size. Let me know. Thanx. ------------------ Aaron Langley, B.C. Canada 1970 Monte Carlo Aaron's Monte Carlo Web Site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Here is a best practice that I use for a while already: On each topic, I attach the signature only on ONE post. If I post another time on this topic, then without signature... ------------------ 71 Monte 454 HO 5- Speed "FULMNTE" 86 Monte LS "The Gray Mouse" FOR SALE! 01 Camaro V6 Andreas' Monte Carlo Site Member NMCOA, FGMCC (Event Coordinator) ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ "It ain't a car if it's not a Monte" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightTime007 Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 No offense taken Canuck. It takes a WHOLE lot to offend me! I totally agree that any web page should not have to be horizontally scrolled to be viewed. The only way to assure that won't happen is to limit all page development to 640x480. Most people run their screen resolution at 800x600, although 1024x768 is becoming more of the standard in developers coding. I've resized my image to hopefully not cause anymore horizontal scrolling. If it does still cause any problem, please let me know. I think Andreas has a great idea too ... only use a signature once per thread. Now that I have deviated from the discussion of Monte's toward computer stuff (too much like my 9-5 duties!), I'll try to return to why I started visiting FGMCC, Monte Talk! Not to say I don't mind throwing in my two cents about computer stuff as they do provide quite a nice living for my family... Thanks all, Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 This is great we are getting much needed feedback about this. We all want a nice smooth running site, and we are getting closer every day ------------------ Trying is the first step tward failure...Homer Simpson 1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo My Monte Carlo Page Pete@firstgenmc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr70Monte Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 I'm not trying to be mean here, but I've noticed that on several other message boards, that the members just post a link to their pics in their signatures, that way it doesn't take up alot of needed space. If I wanted to see someones car I wouldn't mind having to click on one additional link. If you do something to your car that you would like everyone else to see, just post a message, and say, look what I've done now! and include it in a link to the pics. Problem solved. just my opinion. ------------------ '70 Monte Carlo Forest Green/Dark Green Met. interior/Black vinyl top http://community.webshots.com/user/wv_moonshiner [This message has been edited by Mr70Monte (edited 09-23-2002).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightTime007 Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Posting links-only is common practice on large boards, images do consume too much bandwidth for dialup connections. Personally, I kind of like seeing a picture in the message, as I liken it to putting a face to a name. But hey, I'm just weird like that! Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 I have to admit i like seeing the Montes on peoples posts also. ------------------ Trying is the first step tward failure...Homer Simpson 1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo My Monte Carlo Page Pete@firstgenmc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I like seeing the pictures too. I have a dial-up connection and the time it takes to load doesn't bother me at all. Also, I like the idea of only posting the pic once per thread too. Aaron www.aaronsmontecarlo.50megs.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Quote: Originally posted by Canuck:I like seeing the pictures too. I have a dial-up connection and the time it takes to load doesn't bother me at all. Also, I like the idea of only posting the pic once per thread too. Aaronwww.aaronsmontecarlo.50megs.com If we all keep the pictures as small as the one Pete uses, we should be OK. Also it does not realy matter how many times it is on the same post, because your browser caches it the first time it loads the picture and does not download it again on the same page. Just my 2 cents Ian ------------------http://web.tampabay.rr.com/iann/monte.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Ian has a good point here about the browser caches. Quote: <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by iann128: If we all keep the pictures as small as the one Pete uses, we should be OK. Also it does not realy matter how many times it is on the same post, because your browser caches it the first time it loads the picture and does not download it again on the same page. Just my 2 cents Ian </font> ------------------ Trying is the first step tward failure...Homer Simpson 1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo My Monte Carlo Page Pete@firstgenmc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hansen Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Mine is 17.8k. Now about that color depth.... Bob ------------------ 1944 GPW Army Jeep 1964 Buick Riviera- For Sale 1970 Monte Carlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Help, How do you add a picture to either a post or your signature??? ------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarchieB Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 First Greg you need to have your pics on a web page/server. If that's done check out this link to FGMCC faq. It has info on posting pics. MarchieB [This message has been edited by MarchieB (edited 09-28-2002).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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