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#1 Palmbchmonte

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:29 AM

Does your 70 Monte with 400 auto transmission have 4 speed bars?. Mine does. I thought they only came on manual transmission cars ??

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 05:41 AM

Here is a pic.

 

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#3 MC1of80

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:08 AM

Hi! All 70-72 Monte Carlos came with those regardless of the power train options

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:30 AM

Are you talking about the extra sub frame braces?  I always thought they were part of the F41 suspension package.

 

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:54 AM

:dt

 

All of my SS cars have that but my donor car (non SS) does not. 

The SS cars obviously have the F41 suspension package while the non-SS car does not.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:23 AM

:dt

 

All of my SS cars have that but my donor car (non SS) does not. 

The SS cars obviously have the F41 suspension package while the non-SS car does not.

 

Mine is not an SS.

It is a big block automatic.

That is why I was interested in what cars had them installed. 



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:10 PM

Mine is not an SS.

It is a big block automatic.

That is why I was interested in what cars had them installed. 

 

Does your '70 have the factory rear anti-sway bar and boxed lower control arms that came with the F41 performance suspension option?  While RPO F41 was included in all '70 & '71 SS454s (RPO Z20) and '72 Customs (RPO Z03) it was also an available option on all other models for all years.  Do you have a Build Sheet for your '70?


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:08 PM

I thought you meant all them little stones, mine has them too :rofl:  :rofl:  :beer:


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 01:22 PM

Every 70-72 Monte I have ever had or parted out has had the arms. Over 50+ of them. From no option small block, 10 bolt rear to big block cars. Idk. Maybe it's a northeast thing. Lolol

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:50 PM

No it does not have the box lower control arms nor does it have the sway bar. And yes I pulled 3 build sheets.. one out of the back seat one under the front seat and what I believe to be the real one on top of the gas tank unfortunately it was not very legible. So I can't really tell if in fact it was the real one. But no big deal I just thought they only came on the SS or a 4-speed.
The existing 12-bolt rear ends coming out anyway for something that can handle a little more horsepower. I don't want to run C clips either.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:53 PM

I have found them on 10 bolt 350 2 barrel cars also. Non F41 optioned cars had them.



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 03:24 PM

Palmbchmonte, if we had Chevelle's, yes. Only the SS or a Chevelle with the F41 suspension would have those bars. Same with the Buicks, Pontiacs, and Oldsmobiles.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 03:25 PM

But for whatever reason, all, I'm sure some may debate,Monte's that I have found have the bars.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:10 AM

I've parted out my share of Monte's, they've all had them. Big blocks, small blocks, F41 suspension or not. 

 

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:54 AM

I believe they all had them.  They were installed to stiffen the chassis a bit.  Aftermarket suspension companies like Hotchkis, UMI, Global West, Spohn etc.  all make sturdier versions to replace these to stiffen the frame for better handling.

 

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:26 AM

Dan

I am going through all my options now with a Spohn package for a Moser 12B and all the goodies.

Fully adjustable arms to allow preload and to center the car.

Approx $ 7,000 complete with Strange LW drag discs, CM driveshaft...everything needed to try and put a saddle on all those horses ( actually more worried about torque )



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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:49 AM

Just sent you a PM.  Good luck.  Do your homework before pulling the trigger. Its a lot of money, and you want to make sure you spend it wisely.

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