snomobeelr Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 The old intermittent Starter click, click , does not engage issue is back, I thought it was resolved and it has returned. The only fix that works for a while is replacing the Solenoid which I have done each year, but its getting old. I do not think the driving the car only in the spring summer and fall heats up and kills the Solenoid. Yet Ive been having this issue and it seems to happen every year for past 4 years, I know the reason it is clicking is its not getting the full 12 volts at that time. But I dont know why and why it is intermittent. I wondered if it could actually be something with the Neutral safety switch. I read on another post somewhere "you should replace the neutral safety switch wires with 12 gauge wire" ? Or maybe it is something to do with the Rod on steering Column? But wouldn't that be dead and not getting a click? I am at the point where I dont want to but I am thinking of installing a relay since I cant figure it out. Any Suggestions appreciated. Thanks Usually starts and drives fine. Out of nowhere I get the "Click Click" when trying to start then after three or so tries she fires up. Happen's when Cold after it had started just fine. Good Battery , New Heavy Battery Cable's and Connections Ground is good and added ground straps from Motor to frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970mcss Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I had the same issue and played with solenoids last year. One of the members suggested an rebuilt AC Delco starter motor and that has seemed to fix the problem for me. I bought mine from Rock Auto...Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1of80 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Hi torque mini starter. You will wonder why you didn't do it sooner. If your car is stock or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snomobeelr Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 It is a Mini Starter. Its not stock motor. When it does act up. I turn the Key and get a Single "Click". Its not a multiple of "Clicks".. I Turn key off and try again and get a Single "Click". Usually 3rd time Starts right up. Thank Guys, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imr Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 i would guess your bendix is being driven but you have a dead spot on the armature. i dont know about the mini starters but the delcos if i remeber correctly you have a disk in the solenoid you can clean or reverse. 2 brushes that wear and the commutator that you can clean with emery or a lathe. take it apart and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snomobeelr Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 So if it is a dead spot on the Armature would it happen every time I try to start it? I can start it a few times and its fine engages right off the bat and starts. Then out of nowhere I get the "Click" and have to turn the key off and try again a few times before it will start. I've replaced the Solenoid one time each year on the mini starter because of this. After I replace it its good Until the next year. But its getting old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Check your ignition switch, neutral safety switch, and firewall bulkhead connections. You're sending quite a bit of power through a long length of wiring to engage the solenoid, any resistance or corrosion can create enough of a bottleneck to not pass enough power through. Do you have a multimeter to check how many volts you're getting to the solenoid when it's not working? I'm a bit believer in running a relay for the solenoid as well. Then you're pulling power from the same place as the starter itself, and the ignition is only giving it the signal. It's no different and much cleaner than running a remote solenoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteman1971 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Do you have a shield on the starter? Protect it from the heat.... You could start with replacing the leads if that hasn't been mentioned yet but for me it's always been the heat off the headers that kills the starter solenoid. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragCat Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 3:17 PM, MC1of80 said: Hi torque mini starter. You will wonder why you didn't do it sooner. If your car is stock or not. You mean something like this ? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-829105/overview/year/1970/make/chevrolet/model/monte-carlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1of80 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Yes. Just like that one. It's actually "mini" not just a gear reduction starter, which will also work for a while, but is larger than that style. I have this style starter on my 496 with hooker super competition headers and have alot of room all around it for airflow, to hopefully keep it from overheating. Also you can "clock" the position of the solinoid to be as far away from the heat as possible. This doesn't always work though. Some cars don't have the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragCat Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 6:45 PM, MC1of80 said: Yes. Just like that one. It's actually "mini" not just a gear reduction starter, which will also work for a while, but is larger than that style. I have this style starter on my 496 with hooker super competition headers and have alot of room all around it for airflow, to hopefully keep it from overheating. Also you can "clock" the position of the solinoid to be as far away from the heat as possible. This doesn't always work though. Some cars don't have the room. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1of80 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 You're welcome. Hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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