vacavillebob Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ok, what does everyone think is the best way to raise the back of my car. I have already installed new Moog springs and new standard shocks. The car still sits low in the back. What is best way to raise the back of the car, air shocks, coil lifters or what? I like the smooth ride it has just not the sag. And I have been told air shocks give you a rough ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteNH Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I raised mine by going with El Camino springs in the rear. It brought it way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdMC Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 This is what I used on mine. Cheaper than airshocks and it now has just enough forward rake to suit my taste. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SPS-1628/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdMC Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 How far are you wanting to raise it? On mine I put 1" lower Hotchis springs all the way around with KYB Gas Adjust shocks. It seemed to be a little lower in the rear than the front and I just wasn't happy with the way it sat even though the ride was fine. I used the 1 1/2" spacers in the rear so it's actually only 1/2" higher than stock while the front is 1" lower than stock. It rides great and I didn't have to use shock extensios. (Can't get a pic to load at work so I'll email you one of how my car sits now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddiddle Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Mine came with air shocks and they deal with the sag, but as others have pointed out in other places, the better way to go is with elco springs. The shock mounts were not designed to carry the weight of the car. The spring mounts are. That said, mine does not ride hard at all. Granted, they're not "full" of air...only about 25 pounds. It gives me the right stance without a hard ride. When I was a kid, I had air shocks on my Nova pumped up to something like 70 pounds. I wanted a stupidly serious rake. It rode like it had no springs at all. Back then I thought that was kewl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7tonemonte Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Camino springs, or a guy locally used Chevelle wagon springs, it sits really nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I got a shocks et rids good and can raise or lower as I like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Sorry air shocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 57 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I would run air bags in the springs instead of air shocks if you feel the need to lift the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny first gen 71 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I have the moog cargo coils in mine cc501 with air shocks but not much air in the shocks at all just enough to keep the bags full. I do load the car up pretty good for camping at shows and keeps the hight just fine without adding air. The old springs were the orignals and were sagging bad. This is the way it sits now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikstudie Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 In coil air bags for me, as with air shocks it will ride better with the least amout of air needed to have it sit where you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacavillebob Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Thank you everyone, a lot of good ideas here. I will do some further research and decide what I am going to do. Its to bad I did not ask this question before I just put the new Moog springs on the Monte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteNH Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Here is mine before and after the el camino springs. Before I have 235/70/15 on rear and after I got 275/60/15 with no problems at all. Load up the wife and three kids and its never an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottNM Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 How much stiffer is the ride with the camino springs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteNH Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 How much stiffer is the ride with the camino springs? I can only go by what was in the car when I got it ( 40 Yr old orginal )but I really like the ride it gives now. I also upgraded my shocks at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
680HPStroker Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 With the El Camino spring how much more are your shocks extended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteNH Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 With the El Camino spring how much more are your shocks extended? I honestly dont know because I had them installed. I will say the car drives really nice and handles bumps very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacavillebob Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 What year El Camino springs are we talking about 1970 or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteNH Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 What year El Camino springs are we talking about 1970 or what? I ordered 70-72 El-Camino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymonte70 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Hey did you install regular el camino coil springs or the moog variable rate springs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigscaht Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 MonteNH your pic are not showing any more. i would like to see how ur monte sits wit the elco springs as i need to order new ones cuz mine are sagging but i dont want want it to sit to high in the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dans '70 Z20 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Use a performance spring from Hotchkis, Global West or similar...... Install in car ..... See where car sits and how much add'l height is needed ....... Purchase billet coil spring spacers for the add'l height needed. They come in various heights and a simple install. This way you get the benefits of a performance spring rather than just a taller one. They will be a little stiffer when just driving but are progressive. They will get stiffer the more you lean into them. The spacer will not effect benefits of the performance spring or effect ride quality but will get you to the height you want for stance. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigscaht Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 interesting..well after I finish getting this rear sway bar in imma put her on the ground and see how she sits and look into new springs for the rear!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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