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#125909 - 01/04/08 02:05 AM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: 7tonemonte]
Jared Richey Offline
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My window sticker says "Strato Buckets" on my 70. So the term was also used in 1970.

My white 70 has them factory. cool
I wouldn't call them "rare", just very desirable.

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#125914 - 01/04/08 03:09 AM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: Jared Richey]
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Ok...Thanks for the input - but this brings up even more questions. The previous post says the interior pictured has Strato Buckets, but they are of a Vinyl material.

My Strato Buckets have a different kind of material, hard to describe, but more of a silky Fabric and not cloth...The back seat is of the same "fabric" material.

What constitutes a "Strato" Bucket Seat? The type of material or the fact that is simply a Bucket seat? How many of you have Vinyl and how many have the "Fabric"? confused
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#125925 - 01/04/08 08:25 AM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: Orange Flame 72]
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Originally Posted By: Orange Flame 72

My Strato Buckets have a different kind of material, hard to describe, but more of a silky Fabric and not cloth...

What constitutes a "Strato" Bucket Seat? The type of material or the fact that is simply a Bucket seat? How many of you have Vinyl and how many have the "Fabric"? confused


Hmmmmmm...

As far as I know, GM introduced the "Strato Bucket" seats for the 1966 model year and they were used in many models. "Strato Bucket" is what GM called this specific bucket seat design; the name is not dependent on a particular model's interior material or stitching pattern.

I believe that Strato Buckets were used in all GM A-Body intermediate cars from '66-'72 whenever bucket seats were specified, and therefore they are what our bucket seat-optioned Monte Carlos have in them from the factory - regardless of cover material or pattern. As seen in the photos already posted in this thread, Strato Buckets have a fairly thin vertical seat back cushion that is backed with a hard shell. The "shell" continues around the seat base as trim to tie the design of the seat back and seat base together. I believe that head restraints were optional on Strato Buckets from '66-'68 and were standard from '69-'72. In first-gen Monte Carlos they were available with all-vinyl or cloth/vinyl covers.

If you compare '65 and '66 Chevelles with factory bucket seats ('66 would have the Strato Buckets), you will notice the differences between the earlier bucket seat design and the Strato Buckets. The earlier design was chunkier-looking, and considering that the vertical seat back of the Strato Buckets is thinner (when viewed from the side), I believe that they aided with rear seat occupant leg/knee room.

My '70 SS454 has its original code 749 interior in it - Black Cloth Bucket Seats. And yes, these are "Strato Buckets". The "cloth" on black seats (at least in '70) is a nylon-type, and like you described, kind of silky. I believe Chevrolet referred to it as "knitcloth", and I've also seen it called "Prima Cloth". I'm not sure if it's the same material as what's in your '72 or not, but it sounds like it could be. The "knitcloth" is on the seating surfaces only, with the sides being vinyl. It's a great, long-wearing material and it's not as hot as vinyl in the summer.

Hope this helps. smile

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#125926 - 01/04/08 09:00 AM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: Orange Flame 72]
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Originally Posted By: Orange Flame 72

The Bucket seat option appears to be rare among FGMCs....I see alot of Bench seats.


Oh - I almost forgot about this...

I can't remember where, but I saw a production number breakdown of the seat types a while back and it showed that bench seats were more common than buckets by what I recall as a ratio of more than 3 to 1. Bucket seat cars aren't exactly rare, but more of them were produced with bench seats. The A-51 "Strato Bucket" seats were a $121.15 extra-cost option in 1970, according to the Chevrolet SS Muscle Car Red Book. The optional D-55 Console (with floor shift) added another $53.75 to the sticker price of many - but not all - cars equipped with buckets.

Alright... time to hit the hay! tired

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#125942 - 01/04/08 12:32 PM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: David Mau]
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look here http://www.firstgenmc.com/tech/productionnumbers.shtml

the numbers for the 1970's with buckets
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#126018 - 01/05/08 03:14 AM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: David Mau]
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Wow - Thanks Dave, for the info. I believe I have the Knitcloth seats. I wasn't sure how they designated them.

Actually, now that I just looked at the original owner's bill of sale, one of the many options on the car, including Power seats ($60.00), is "bucket seats-cloth" ($103.74)......I still think it's more of a "fabric" than a cloth, but I'll agree on the "knit" part. I'd call them "Silky Knit Fabric Strato Bucket Seats" grin
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#126029 - 01/05/08 07:52 AM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: Orange Flame 72]
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Originally Posted By: Orange Flame 72
Wow - Thanks Dave, for the info.

I'd call them "Silky Knit Fabric Strato Bucket Seats" grin


You're welcome for the info, and your name for them certainly works for me!

I think that "Knitcloth" is the term used for the fabric in the 1970 Monte Carlo brochure. Chances are that if you have a 1972 brochure, it would say in there what they call your particular fabric. I purchased my '70 brochure from Walter Miller years ago - who still advertises in the National Monte Carlo Owners Association (NMCOA) magazine. His website is www.autolit.com . I think that brochures run about $15.00 these days. smile

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#126115 - 01/05/08 10:47 PM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: David Mau]
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My 72 brochure just calls it cloth and vinyl. According to the brochure, this was the standard interior with all vinyl at extra cost.
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#200574 - 04/08/09 01:56 AM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: montefrazer]
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Here is my build sheet listing the Strato Bucket seat option:



Green Vinyl
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#200607 - 04/08/09 01:09 PM Re: How rare are the Strato Buckets?? [Re: RoyalTermite]
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There was a big change from 70 to 71 on the interior door panels, sun visors, seat cloth and the ribs or pleats in the cloth. Even the inst panel color gauge lights are different.
I have always thought the 71-72 interior was way nicer than the 70. Truth be told, the 71 it always going to be the best of the three years in every way!
No brag, just fact!
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