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Did you ever notice... on so many of the Facebook groups dedicated to the First Generation Monte Carlo how many Scam Ads and Knock -Off T-Shirt ads they have. If yes, have you also noticed that don't see much of that here on the FGMCC site or even the Facebook group that Aaron (Canuck) manages. That is because of the screening process we use here when someone wants access to post on the site. Even if some of them do get through it is almost always quickly noticed by our moderators and admins and those posts are quickly removed and the poster banned from the site. We rarely have members scammed on items posted for sale here and we rarely have to remove posts or ban people from posting. This is a very safe place to come to for your needs. rob16 points
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The ‘71 came out of hibernation Friday. The ‘70 was extracted from her cocoon today. Both gave me no issues starting and felt great on the 10 - 12 mile initial ride. The AC compressor on the ‘71 gave up the ghost (the pretty green dye in the refrigerant matches the Lime Green Poly perfectly 😂), but whatya gonna do? New compressor already ordered and hopefully delivered and installed in time for Carlisle. PS - the day I figure out how to get pictures loaded in sequence is the day Dennis’ feet don’t appear in his pictures16 points
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From 1969 1 (1967) 1967 Triumph GT6 2 (1968) 1966 Impala 2 door hinge 3 (1971) 1971 Monte Carlo 402, turbo 400, air, criuse, tilt, ps, pb, pw, pt, rear defogger, am/fm/8 track, gauge package, buckets/ counsel, triple green, front and rear bumper guards, 3.08 gear,rally wheels. 4. (1971) 1959 Triumph TR3 - still in the family 5. (1975) 1968 Olds 442 455 4 speed M22 built by B&M 6. (1975) 1938 Pontiac coupe, 350, turbo 400, air, cruise, tilt, telecopping, pw, pl, ps, pb, 3.42 posi. Ran high 13s. 7 (2000) 1987 GMC 4 wheel drive 454, Holley Sniper, 4 speed, 3.08 posi. Daily driver 8 (2019) 1970 Monte Carlo SS454, gauge package, pw, ps, pb, pt, tilt, vigilite, wiper fluid monitor, buckets/counsel, 3.42 posi, black/black. Driving when no snow. Hope pictures load, left out a lot of short stays. ..14 points
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Had breakfast with my Dad and my second favorite mechanic yesterday. I’ve previously mentioned that Terry had owned a ‘71 SS that he sold many years ago, but he’s still finding various parts, memorabilia and literature etc. Yesterday he gave me a few “Super Chevys” magazines from ‘84 and ‘85. Attached are some pix and Monte-related articles… can you find the two unicorns? 🤣😂 Hint: one’s “down under” and one’s pulling the front tires off the ground. There’s a nice 2 page article on the ‘71 SS which appears on the cover of the July 1985 edition of Super Chevys “Chevy Show Place” Looks exactly like Dennis’, minus the bananas in the tailpipes And I’m definitely curious… were some of the owners as listed 40 years ago ever FGMCC members? Are these folks still alive? Are any of the Montes still around under different ownership? Perhaps some of you senior FGMCC members might know of these folks and cars.12 points
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New member but old lurker here. I wanted to join the ranks of a paying member to make sure this place stays around as long as possible. I have a 1970 402 BB - Auto, factory buckets and console w/ power windows, Flint-built 08C-third week of August '69, Color 78-Black Cherry w/ B-Black vinyl top. It now has a transplanted 454 bored .030 over, dual plane Weiand intake and a dual line 650 Holley carb. Just got it running along with all new calipers, lines, discs, bearings and pads up front and new trailing arms w/ poly bushings out back. I've had the car for over 30 yrs but life and kids got in the way of working on it more often. So now I am, little by little. I've been so thankful for the information I've found here and hope to find more as well as friends in the hobby. If you are near Nashville, TN, "holler back", as they say ! Some old pics as well as some recent ones are attached as I've worked on it here lately. Dennis Bagwell12 points
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Hello to all the First Gen fans out there! Been visiting here for years and finally joined. Started by looking around for cars to purchase and fell in love with all the knowledgeable info and fans like me.12 points
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Spent the weekend getting her ready for spring.... IF that every comes. lol Changed oil & filter, lubed the front end, re jetted the carb, chased that "mystery wire" down, pulled the rear seat.... and "no", there's no paperwork tucked in there. Put the re conditioned dash and battery back in, added a squirt of gas down the carb...... And "BINGO"!!! She fired right up. Now, just need to get the new tires on and wait out the snow the weather woman says is coming tonight.11 points
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Got delayed today, not complaining I was with good people. Anyway, got in the garage late, put on the battery charger, got it off the jack stands, topped off the air shocks, tires, checked the oil and rad. The rad looked a little low so I'm off in the morning to get some distilled water. Works for me so I can go to the car wash and clean 2K roadtrip grime off the truck. Also bought a TPMS for the trailer and have to get that set up. Plan is to be on a cruise tomorrow, and test the line lock and lay down some smoke 🤣10 points
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I'll Try but I am old and surely won't remember them all: 1929 Model A Ford Tudor Sedan Purchased 1966 at age 15. I fully restored this car and I still own this Model A Ford 1929 Model A Ford Tudor Sedan Purchased 1966 as a parts car 1929 Model A Ford Tudor Sedan Purchased for parts. Took parts I wanted and replaced with parts from my first purchased one and then sold it to buy more parts. 1954 Studebaker Commander In 1966 (Wasn't really mine but a car given to my parents for my brother and I to drive. It got t-boned by a guy in a brand new Buick, while my brother was driving it to work. The Buick was totaled but my brother was able to continue on to work after the police left. 1959 VW Beetle This car was passed down to me and my younger sister to drive after our older sister eloped and moved out. I drove it up until the time I left for the US Air Force in November of 1968 1970 (First Year Of Monte) Desert Sand Chevrolet Monte Carlo. My first NEW Car. I sold it when the transmission started to slip around (the buyer knew about the tranny issues. I sold it to buy my next car. I needed a dependable vehicle to tow my Model A Ford from Jacksonville, FL to Pittsburgh. 1976 Olds Cutlass Supreme. I bought it used with a full warranty. We used it to tow the Model A Ford from Jacksonville to Pittsburgh... The transmission it the Cutlass went bad 10 miles from Pittsburgh but the warranty covered the repairs. 1980 Chevrolet (First Year ) Citation 6 Cyl High Output hatch back with rally wheels. (the most versatile car we ever owned. Way too much power and we loved that car. 1983 Cutlas Ciera Diesel. Bought it new when we traded in our Chevy Citation 1985 Chevrolet S-10 Trail Blazer Bought it new 1995 Chevrolet S-10 Trail Blazer 2005 Chevy Impala 2009 VW Jetta (In my name but it was Patsy's car) 2013 Chevrolet Captiva Crossover SUV 2017 GMC Terrain Denali Current Vehicle 2023 VW Jetta (in both of our names but it is Patsy's Car) From 1973 to when I retired I had many company cars in my name but they belonged to the company. There is no way I could remember all of them. Some of them are more memorable than others either for good reasons or bad reasons. 1974 AMC Ambassador was my first one and boy was it a POS. The day I picked it up I turned right out of the dealer parking lot, went about 1/4 mile and turned right again. My next turn was supposed to be a left turn but the car would not turn left, only straight or right turns. It did not last long because within 2 years it started to rust away to the point it would not pass state inspection. It was too late in the year to order another company car (They usually only ordered 4 door model cars but they had to see what was available on dealer lots and they came up with a Cutla1976 Cutlass S with a 350 4 brl and posi-rear end, it was a beast. My next one was a Pontiac 6000 followed by a 1982 Buick Skylark followed by a Ford Taurus (That car got hit in the middle of the night parked in front of our house. It was hit so hard it pushed it across the sidewalk and into our hedges. (when I got it back from being fixed we found I had an extra 4 inches in the trunk, front to back because the metal behind the back seat was pushed forward that much.. That was all of the cars I had and after that they switched to vans and I had too many of them to remember each of them. rob10 points
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It depends on a lot of factors Dale, with a bunch of different paths to take (and there will be multiple opinions on that too, lol). That being said, there are a couple things to consider first. Has the system ever worked or did you get the car with that missing front hose? Is the original type GM A6 compressor there? Do you want to charge the system with the old R12 refrigerant, or go with the more readily available R134A? Are you concerned about original appearance. How much is cost a factor? - The original compressors were large, heavy, inefficient, and prone to seal leakage. - If the system has been open for any length of time, it'll need a new filter/drier, and a system flush would be recommended as well. I'd try to see if the compressor even turns before wasting time going thru the system, to later find out it's defective anyways (and it could still be a leaker). Personally, I'm not a fan of the Vintage air conversions, especially if the car was a factory A/C car to start with. As long as the original dash controls & actuators work good, everything else in the system can be made to work with readily available replacement parts, as well as R134A upgrade kits. The Sanden type of replacement/upgrade compressors are smaller, more efficient, and don't leak like the old A6's, though they obviously don't look stock. There are 'S6' compressors that bolt in place of the originals, but have Sanden type internals. They are a bit expensive though, but can be painted black to mimic a factory type installation if that's your goal. The whole thing can snowball from there. R134A isn't as efficient as R12 at making cold air, plus the molecule is smaller, making replacement hose selection a factor. R134 hoses are a 'Barrier' type, with an internal liner of sorts, that helps keep the smaller refrigerant molecule inside the system. Popular opinion is that good, used R12 system hoses are OK to re-use as the old oil in the system coated the inside, helping to create a bit of a sealing effect. Oh, it's recommended to replace all of the system O-rings to 134a spec materials too. The refrigerant oil is different too, necessitating a system flush as well. R134a replacement evaporators & condensers tend to be a 'parallel flow' type, which is more efficient at heat transfer than the old originals. I've converted systems with the old components, and systems with the new parts and can say the new ones seem to make for colder measured air temperatures coming out of the vents. It obviously comes at a cost though. Labor is another factor, would you be doing the work yourself, or farming it out? I tend to like the stuff that 'Original Air' group has, plus have had great luck with their customer service. Others here like different vendors. If you're missing parts, or want to upgrade to the more efficient parts, their 'Upgrade' kits are complete with the better evaporators & condensers, fit good, and work great. They have 3 stages, all with varying degrees of parts & prices. Stage1 with compressor, hoses, filter/drier: https://www.originalair.com/69-72-chevelle-el-camino-malibu-monte-carlo-sprint-134a-rotary-compressor-upgrade-kit-stage-1 Stage 2 and 3 are available with more parts (they're not showing a Stage 2 for Monte that's $200 cheaper, which deletes the evaporator, but call them and they'll make it up if that's your choice). Stage 3 is the best they offer, are complete, and work well. For the extra $200, that's my choice, though it's extra work to replace the evaporator. My motto, do it right, do it once and be done with it... : https://www.originalair.com/70-72-monte-carlo-ultimate-engine-compartment-upgrade-kit-134a Here is the S6 compressor I spoke of, that looks stock. It can also be had in black: https://www.originalair.com/s6-compressor-new Parts: https://www.originalair.com/replacement-parts Hopefully, this gives you some info and direction. If you have questions, just ask, or PM me your phone number and I can explain things in more detail. This is just a small bit of info regarding a conversion, there are plenty of other factors, and tips necessary to make a good installation. EDIT: I forgot, they do have 'Stock' replacement kits too, with the A6 compressors. Appears to be the same prices, but still with the leak prone, heavy, horse power robbing compressor. Still, it would be a good choice for the purist type of owner. https://www.originalair.com/70-72-monte-carlo-ac-compressor-replacement-parts-kit-v8-stage-1-exc-1970-with-bbc-2 https://www.originalair.com/70-72-monte-carlo-ac-replacement-parts-kit-v8-stage-2 https://www.originalair.com/70-72-monte-carlo-ac-replacement-parts-kit-v8-stage-310 points
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Just a few stats to share with you: Numbers by years: 70's =27 71's = 16 72's=18 Arrival Days = Tuesday = 5 Members Wednesday = 19 Members Thursday = 55 Members Friday= 7 & Saturday 1 Classes: Stock=15 Street=17 Modified=19 Super Modified=9 States represented 19 Province's=2 rob9 points
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I second what Rob said about that other Dennis. He a real pain in the ….8 points
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The cups on my 69 Camaro were pretty butchered from an aftermarket radio that I was replacing with a stock Delco. I made new cups using pvc pipe caps. Before shaving off the old cups I measured their depth and trimmed the pvc to the same. I used JB Weld to bond them and also to create a gusset around the perimeter of the cap at the bonding surface. I then blended the inside of the caps with a Dremmel to blend seamlessly with the knob opening in the dash and resprayed everything with satin black. That was 23 years ago.8 points
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Just a few statistics: 78 Number of Members Registered With Me 137 Number of members and their guests registered with me 27 1970's 16 1971;s 19 1972's We also have some members with cars registered that are not First Gen Monte's Stock 19 Street 17 Modified 19 Super Modified 10 States Represented 19 Canadian Provinces 2 rob8 points
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You'll see a trend here, couldn't find a pic of my Montego MX. 🤣 Some may notice the 75 and 72 have the same wheels and tires. I had just finished upgrading the 75 when FL started emissions testing, couldn't get the 75 to run and pass emissions so took the whole drive train and dropped it in the 72, 72 was exempt from testing. The 67 pic is taken in front of the lot of my first house, the others are the built house.8 points
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I know before i even start that i will forget a ton of them and when i had them. But i will give it a shot. First legal, under my name car 68 Chevelle SS, triple black with ghost flames 396 4spd with a/c 69 Impala triple green 350-350 4door a/c 66 toyota celica cream over black 4 cyl 4spd a/c 68 Cutlass, white over black 350-350 a/c gave to my Mom 72 Nova SS, red (painted her black) over black 350 4spd with a/c 70 Impala triple blue, 350-350 4 door a/c 76 Chevy K20 350 4spd blue over blue a/c 76 Ford F150 red over red v8 4spd a/c 7? Plymouth arrow 4 squirrel 4spd 78 toyota celica triple blue 4cyl 4or 5 spd a/c 82 olds 98 champaine over brown 455 auto a/c 86 Ford F150 silver over red, 6cyl 4spd a/c 87 Grand National, 6cyl turbo, original 92 town car dark silver 8cyl auto a/c 99 expedition black over brown ?????? auto a/c 98 navigator black over brown ???????? auto a/c 2000 trail blazer black over gray ????? auto a/c 2001 impala black over gray ????????? auto a/c (POS) 2001 Chevy dually black over gray ????? auto a/c 2009 honda pilot burgandy over tan ????? auto a/c 2021 honda pilot black over brown ???? auto a/c 2018 Ram 1500 silver over gray 6cyl auto a/c 2021 Chevy PU 1500 black over gray 4cyl turbo auto a/c 72 Monte green over green 350-350 auto a/c 72 Monte Blue with black vinyl and black int 454-400 a/c 64 Chevelle SS. black over red, small 8cyl 4spd a/c 71 Monte SS classic copper, sandlewood top and interior, 454-400 a/c 71 Monte SS classic copper, brown top sandlewood interior. 454-400 a/c 71 Monte SS classic copper, black top, black interior, 454-400 a/c 71 Monte SS blue, black top black interior, 454-400 a/c 72 Monte burnt orange black top black interior, 350-350 a/c 72 Monte burnt orange sandlewood top brown interior 350-350 a/c 71 Monte triple green 350-350 a/c 72 Monte yellow over black 350-350 a/c I wasnt going to do this, but here it is, I know there is more and i cant remember some years, they are also not in order. I cant believe i remembered this many!!!!8 points
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Well, we now know who is Member Number 75 but not just number 75..... We now have 76 members registered with me to attend. I have just added Tom Carter #75 and his sister Eileen Powers as #76, each bringing their own Monte. Saturday 8:55PM March 23rd I just added Member Number 77, Mike Mnich from Pennsylvania, his Monte sounds very interesting, looking forward to seeing it in Carlisle UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE Before this list only had the State or Province. In case any member wanted to maybe hook up with another member and caravan to the meet I have added the member cities. Jason Abrams Gilford, Pennsylvania Paul Adams Bossier City, Louisiana Mark Apel Batavia, Ohio Thomas Baird Latham, New York Bob Bardou Canastota, New York Sammy Barnette Raleigh, North Carolina Capri Blasco Brunswick Hills, Ohio Jim Boczar Durham, Connecticut Kenneth Bower Floyd, Virginia Tom Carter Syracuse, NY CK Collins Haauppauge, New York Dennis Collins Hauppauge, New York Dave Concordia Vineland, New Jersey Willie Conforti Farmingville, New York Jack Cooper Rootstown, Ohio Jim Covello Newtown Square, Pennsylvania Randy Czankner Northampton, Pennsylvania Brian Den Bleyker Hackensack, New Jersey Tony Divirgilio Coatsville, Pennsylvania Aaron Dodsworth Summerland, British Columbia Canada Dan Donlin Dayton, New Jersey John Engle Beavercreek, Ohio Kevin Ferrante Statin Island, New York Tom Ferrante Statin Island, New York Jeffrey Freeman Westfield, New York Jolene Garvin Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania Andy Gorzynski Erie, Pennsylvania Doug Guenther Niagra Falls, New York Carl Hanson Barboursville, Virginia Robert Hedden Levittown, Pennsylvania Anthony Heitz Georgetown, Delaware Marty Jenkins Dresden, New York Kevin Jones Coatsville, Pennsylvania Leo Konik St Claire, Michigan Keith Lamagna Rochester, New York Richard Lang Lutherville, Maryland Steve Lavoie Liverpool, New York Stephen Levanti East Islip, New York Ronnie Martinez Bakersfield, California Bryan Mauger Lewis Center, Ohio Ryan Misrasi Tremonton, Utah Mike Mnich Alverda, PA Jeffy Mullen Pasadena, Maryland Paul Mullen Catonsville, Maryland Greg Munday Reading, Pennsylvania Jay Munday Reading, Pennsylvania Frank O'Connell East Sandwich, Massachusetts Geraled Patterson Alexandria, Virginia Rob Peters Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Patrick Peters McDonald, Pennsylvania Glen Popiela Chicago, Illi Eileen Powers Marietta, NY Seth Primack Queensbury, NY John Principato Ontario, Canada Bill Rees Richfield, OH Jared Richey Belton, South Carolina John Rodi Bridgeport, Connecticut Joe Roman Lancaster, Pennsylvania Dan Ruland Commack, New York James Seyboldt Palm Coast, Florida Jerry Skidmore Johnson City, Tennessee Jim Stead Corning, New York Michael Stevens Havertown, Pennsylvania Joe Sullivain Kennett Square, Pennsylvania Michael Talerek Commack, New York Joe Tedesco Niagara Falls, New York Ron Tevis Cynthiana, Kentucky Diana Tocci Derry, New Hampshire Dennis Tretter Amelia, Ohio Mark Truman Dearfield Beach, Florida Gary Vanatter Royersford, Pennsylvania Donny Vestal Bluff City, Tennessee Ed Walker Ossining, New York Jerry (Del) Warner Sweet Valley, Pennsylvania Bob Wiemels Sheffield Lake, Ohio Kevin Wiles Anderson, South Carolina Mike Zecca Thornton, Pennsylvania Keep those registrations coming....Who will be number 77 78???? rob8 points