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  1. Hello to all the First Gen fans out there! Been visiting here for years and finally joined. Started by looking around for cars to purchase and fell in love with all the knowledgeable info and fans like me.
    12 points
  2. Just a few stats to share with you: Numbers by years: 70's =27 71's = 16 72's=18 Arrival Days = Tuesday = 5 Members Wednesday = 19 Members Thursday = 55 Members Friday= 7 & Saturday 1 Classes: Stock=15 Street=17 Modified=19 Super Modified=9 States represented 19 Province's=2 rob
    9 points
  3. Dad had a 77 GP SJ. 400, th400, 10 bolt posi that he bought new. Was a daily driver till it no longer wasn't.
    8 points
  4. I had a 454 74 Monte Carlo, 3-76's 5-77's a 78 and a 79. Still love the 70-72's the best.
    8 points
  5. Turns out that the bumper in the picture was just a sample picture. The one I bought was nicer in the back. I'll be showing it on my next YouTube channel episode. 😎
    8 points
  6. Well, we now know who is Member Number 75 but not just number 75..... We now have 76 members registered with me to attend. I have just added Tom Carter #75 and his sister Eileen Powers as #76, each bringing their own Monte. Saturday 8:55PM March 23rd I just added Member Number 77, Mike Mnich from Pennsylvania, his Monte sounds very interesting, looking forward to seeing it in Carlisle UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE Before this list only had the State or Province. In case any member wanted to maybe hook up with another member and caravan to the meet I have added the member cities. Jason Abrams Gilford, Pennsylvania Paul Adams Bossier City, Louisiana Mark Apel Batavia, Ohio Thomas Baird Latham, New York Bob Bardou Canastota, New York Sammy Barnette Raleigh, North Carolina Capri Blasco Brunswick Hills, Ohio Jim Boczar Durham, Connecticut Kenneth Bower Floyd, Virginia Tom Carter Syracuse, NY CK Collins Haauppauge, New York Dennis Collins Hauppauge, New York Dave Concordia Vineland, New Jersey Willie Conforti Farmingville, New York Jack Cooper Rootstown, Ohio Jim Covello Newtown Square, Pennsylvania Randy Czankner Northampton, Pennsylvania Brian Den Bleyker Hackensack, New Jersey Tony Divirgilio Coatsville, Pennsylvania Aaron Dodsworth Summerland, British Columbia Canada Dan Donlin Dayton, New Jersey John Engle Beavercreek, Ohio Kevin Ferrante Statin Island, New York Tom Ferrante Statin Island, New York Jeffrey Freeman Westfield, New York Jolene Garvin Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania Andy Gorzynski Erie, Pennsylvania Doug Guenther Niagra Falls, New York Carl Hanson Barboursville, Virginia Robert Hedden Levittown, Pennsylvania Anthony Heitz Georgetown, Delaware Marty Jenkins Dresden, New York Kevin Jones Coatsville, Pennsylvania Leo Konik St Claire, Michigan Keith Lamagna Rochester, New York Richard Lang Lutherville, Maryland Steve Lavoie Liverpool, New York Stephen Levanti East Islip, New York Ronnie Martinez Bakersfield, California Bryan Mauger Lewis Center, Ohio Ryan Misrasi Tremonton, Utah Mike Mnich Alverda, PA Jeffy Mullen Pasadena, Maryland Paul Mullen Catonsville, Maryland Greg Munday Reading, Pennsylvania Jay Munday Reading, Pennsylvania Frank O'Connell East Sandwich, Massachusetts Geraled Patterson Alexandria, Virginia Rob Peters Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Patrick Peters McDonald, Pennsylvania Glen Popiela Chicago, Illi Eileen Powers Marietta, NY Seth Primack Queensbury, NY John Principato Ontario, Canada Bill Rees Richfield, OH Jared Richey Belton, South Carolina John Rodi Bridgeport, Connecticut Joe Roman Lancaster, Pennsylvania Dan Ruland Commack, New York James Seyboldt Palm Coast, Florida Jerry Skidmore Johnson City, Tennessee Jim Stead Corning, New York Michael Stevens Havertown, Pennsylvania Joe Sullivain Kennett Square, Pennsylvania Michael Talerek Commack, New York Joe Tedesco Niagara Falls, New York Ron Tevis Cynthiana, Kentucky Diana Tocci Derry, New Hampshire Dennis Tretter Amelia, Ohio Mark Truman Dearfield Beach, Florida Gary Vanatter Royersford, Pennsylvania Donny Vestal Bluff City, Tennessee Ed Walker Ossining, New York Jerry (Del) Warner Sweet Valley, Pennsylvania Bob Wiemels Sheffield Lake, Ohio Kevin Wiles Anderson, South Carolina Mike Zecca Thornton, Pennsylvania Keep those registrations coming....Who will be number 77 78???? rob
    8 points
  7. It was optional on all first gen Montes. Roughly 20% of the first gen Montes did not have AC. The AC option is less common the further North you go.
    7 points
  8. Yes Rob. I did all of the work besides rebuild the transmission and add the 3:55 posi. I did the sheet metal repair and paint prep. I had a friend help spray the base and clear.
    7 points
  9. Same here. Before I joined this group, I never entered a show to be judged. To me, it's a $25/year parking space 🤣.
    7 points
  10. It has been a long road. As the saying goes when you have the time you don't have the money and when you have the money you don't have the time. Many things in life have happened in life during the restoration, some good and some bad. The good news is I sure hope to have it on the road by the time the salt has been washed away and I am able to put some miles on it and have the confidence to drive it to the 2024 Eastern meet.
    7 points
  11. It makes no difference if you are a dues paying member or not, your comments are taken the same. As far as deleting the entire thread, I am not sure why. Nobody is saying to do anything that is not legal. As a matter of fact the post about the guy will make you a VIN tag indicated that person will not even touch it without seeing a clear title for the car. Unless I am missing something I did not see anything that was of concern. rob
    7 points
  12. Here's my all original '72 402 that I found by luck one day searching the web. It came with some trophies in the trunk from late 80s and early 90s. Think whoever had it must of parked soon after because it could use some TLC.
    7 points
  13. I did all Legendary interior (major pieces) on the ‘70 in July of 2022. I got all the other small bits and pieces (except seatbelts) from OPG. Very happy with the end results…
    7 points
  14. Thanks for posting, That's a very nice ride indeed, I personally would prefer the 402 4sp or the most elusive of all.......... Of course it would be the Factory 71 454 4sp !!!!!!! Please let me know when one of those come available !!! 😂
    6 points
  15. One of the best cars I ever owned, after driving a 68 falcon, 67 vw bug, and a 62 dodge dart, this car was like driving a dream car . Even tho I prefer the first generation now, I alway liked the 4 headlight system.. someone has an 77 and brought it to the 2022 Carlisle meet. Was in excellent condition.. 77 was my favorite second gen… Monte…
    6 points
  16. They had a news conference this morning with some new information as well as the old. Dave Kindig and Kevin dog will be there all 3 days and will be bringing a couple cars that they built. Also the county kicked In some cash and they will increase advertising to make show even bigger and better. They are trying to make this show the biggest and best in the country over the next few years. Also the midway tent will be back up this year for bands in the evening. So no really new and huge information but only 110 days until the show. Also announced that over 80 thousand dollars was raised for local charity's and something like 10 million went into local economy so that's something. Gonna be a good time for sure.
    6 points
  17. I finally got a copy of it. A friend of mine dropped it off at my office today. 🙂
    6 points
  18. I wanted 76 or 77 when I was in High School but I could not afford a car like that, so I bought my 71 for $1,425.00. The rest is history!!
    6 points
  19. With the number of members we have registered already someone asked me if I had any idea what the attendance for the Saturday evening Award Dinner would be. I counted up all of our members and guests and if we were to hold that Awards Dinner today and every member and their guest attended there would be 135 people at that dinner. We will easily fit our group Award Dinner in the vendor food court area. rob
    6 points
  20. The last two wheels came out ok. A few days of electrolysis and wire wheeling to remove the rust and there you have it !
    6 points
  21. It’s very important to all of us. Nobody wants a vin issue. Especially when purchasing a car. Verifying documentation is not easy with the technology out there to create fraudulent paperwork. Due diligence is key and ask people that knows a lot of questions.
    6 points
  22. I agree 100 % I'd never drive that far just to go to a show, it's all about the people, the fun we have and the bench racing. My car is not an award winner and I don't care it's all about the fun, the people and have made some great friends along the way.
    6 points
  23. In all honesty I don’t think that many of us members really care about the cars being judged. It’s more about the having fun with the group. I’ve gone to shows and have been told to put the sheets on the dash. I just throw them in the back seat. If they want them, they can find them. lol.
    6 points
  24. Most of the Frams are built like a kindergarten art project. Original (good GM with metal endcaps) on left, newer Delco made by fram (middle) and fram on right.
    6 points
  25. There is a guy on eBay making these- you can customize the numbers. These are really nice! Looks like they’ll hold up better than the normal repops.
    6 points
  26. I have a NOS AC Delco filter that I bought and will use that. 10W-30 With a fresh oil change you should drive it up to our Eastern Meet in Carlisle PA this June, 76 members already registered with me to attend rob
    6 points
  27. 6 points
  28. I’ll take a “281 / 700 HP” for Vicky, please.
    6 points
  29. I usually over pack all sorts of tools when loading up the trailer for the meets. I'll put the battery powered Sawzall and angle grinder & cutoff wheels on the list for this year, just in case..😁.
    6 points
  30. Take the outlet cover off , short the screws on the side, recover and go find out what doesn’t work. I used that method for years. Hmmm. Does explain a few things?!? lol.
    5 points
  31. That is what I first thought of Bruce but after pulling the balancer off there is no groove. On the axle I had to do the same on one of my cars several years ago
    5 points
  32. The 'Loop' carpet is the correct type Paul. If you get the 'Mass Backing' option , it does look & fit nicer, though it costs a bit more. FWIW, I've gotten them from OC Auto Carpets in the past, but recently found that Rock Auto sells the exact same product and was cheaper. They all drop ship from ACC anyways. Getting them direct from ACC is the most expensive way to go. Right now, they're $169 at OC, add $71 for the Mass backing' ($241) https://www.ocautocarpets.com/product/2063/1970-1972-chevrolet-monte-carlo-2dr-auto/ Looks like $144 at Rock Auto for the standard Loop, and $204 for the Mass backing https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chevrolet,1971,monte+carlo,7.4l+454cid+v8,1055641,interior,flooring,1264 The shipping was half the price at Rock also, at least to my location. ($16 vs $37). Worth a look at any rate. Matching ACC floor mats can be found at the same time, with savings at Rock as well compared to the other sites.
    5 points
  33. I get why he did it. I tend to do that with my original build thread in the New Member section. Keeps everything in one place. Couple other forums I belong to, they'd complain about resurrecting an old thread. Not here, it's all good.
    5 points
  34. I suspect Bob is doing that so from start to current his restoration is pretty much all in one long post over the years. From knowing Bob all these years getting this done has been a challenge but I am glad to see there is a light at the end of the tunnel for him. Having followed Bob's restoration over all of these years, if I am not mistaken I think Bob has done almost all of the work himself. When I was young, single and living at home I did the restoration on my Model A.... back then I didn't have any home, family or any other responsibilities, I know I would not have been able to do what Bob or many others here have done in the restoration of their cars. I have seen way too many people take on a project like this and give up on it, I know I could not have accomplished what Bob has done on this car. rob
    5 points
  35. Not sure about 71 and 72 but the 70 ca.e from the factory with a wire that was part of the negative battery cable clamp that attached to a hole in the passenger fender. One time I had an issue of flickering and dimming lights. I found that wire to be broken and after I repaired that wire my flicker and dimming disappeared. rob
    5 points
  36. I swear...FB is always listening and watching. We're talking electrical, and this just popped up on there...😄 This popped up right after it...this is getting scary now 🤨 "Breaker Finder" 😄
    5 points
  37. Good Morning. Well, another day has ticked off the calendar and today marks 84 days and a wake-up before some of our members start arriving in Carlisle for our 2024 Eastern Meet. We will soon be in the 70's in our count-down. rob
    5 points
  38. Thanks for the quick response. Not sure what I listed my car under...it surely needs to be in "Super Modified" class in that case. On a side note I never have my car judged in the club or at Carlisle. I never put the paper on the dash. Maybe someday when/if it ever gets restored I will. 🙂
    5 points
  39. I have MSD 8.8 wires with a/c sparkplugs in "Big Red" pertronix wires, cap, electronic ignition conversion, coil with a/c plugs in "Barn Find". Obviously the set up in Barn Find looks like stock. It all depends on the "look" you are going for.
    5 points
  40. I had a 76 Cutlass S. Those GM colonnade cars drove very nice. Mine had the upgraded suspension.
    5 points
  41. I have been using Castrol GTX 10W40 and the larger capacity AC Delco filters for 27 years and 80,000 miles (132,000 miles total on the car). I just had the engine rebuilt over the winter. The cam was heavily worn but the rest of the engine looked really good. He said to simply keep doing what I'm doing but he does prefer the Napa Gold filters.
    5 points
  42. Nah... I considered putting on a metal repair clinic under the club tent, to provide the type of thing that Carlisle said the Fiero people did better than us a couple years ago (poor excuse at best). But, it'll probably be 90o out there, so that's not happening... 🤷‍♂️ 😄 Plus, it'll cut into my nap time under the tent....
    5 points
  43. 5 points
  44. Joe had pointed out a couple members who were not on the list. Those two have been added but when I counted it only added up to 75 so I found the one that was missing and added that member too. So it now adds up to 76 members. rob
    5 points
  45. Maybe if you put those on they would let you park on the property at Carlisle 🤣
    5 points
  46. I got a 73 GP for the wife before we got married. She loved it!! My Farther In-law and I loved it too with that extra long nose. Thank God she never needed the nose as she is a pretty good driver. A giant step up from the 70 nova family car she used to drive back then!! She is not a car girl and now drives a honda!!! lol
    4 points
  47. Totally makes sense now. I have seen the error of my ways. My apologies Bob. If I did things to my 71 I would go back to my restoration thread also.
    4 points
  48. Though this isn't the article I was referring to, it has much the same info regarding diesel oil, and also standalone zinc additives as well. Keep in mind, these are oil company experts answering the questions. The link, and a few pertinent excerpts: https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/ask-oil-expert-industry-specialists-set-record-str/ EDIT: This may be the article I was thinking about, but I know there is one more out there regarding 'break-in' oils, and they also address diesel oil and standalone additives, but it's not in web form yet.(Hemmings Muscle Machines-January 2024 edition): https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/diesel-oil-in-gasoline-engine/ Q. A lot of people recommend diesel oils for older gasoline engines. Is this good advice? Why or why not? A. The diesel oil recommendation most likely started when API reduced the amount of zinc in gasoline engine oils. Diesel oils contain higher amounts of zinc, so this is why people use them in gasoline engines. Another potential factor is the wider viscosity selection of diesel oils. If your classic requires a 15W-40 oil, for example, it’s going to be hard to find a gasoline engine oil in that viscosity. Diesel-specific engine oils are designed to help remove the soot and other byproducts of running diesel fuel–a greater amount than gasoline produces. Therefore, diesel oils usually contain a higher concentration of certain detergents to clean the internals better. Usually this is a good thing. However, the detergents can be so effective that they remove part of the oil film from the cylinder walls, and that can mean quicker wear. There are other reasons why people use diesel oils in gasoline engines, but none of them are, in my opinion, valid. Modern, high-quality gasoline engine oils are much better at protecting the engine than any diesel oil will ever be. STEFAN BRAUN Application specialist Liqui Moly A. That diesel recommendation comes from the days when diesel oils contained more ZDDP than gasoline engine oils. Today’s API CK-4 diesel spec allows oils to be the same ZDDP level as a gasoline car oil, so the “advantage” of diesel oils has been eliminated. LAKE SPEED JR. Certified lubrication specialist Driven Racing Oil Q. Which is better for my original, older engine and why: conventional oil or synthetic? And which one leaks less? And what if that older engine has been recently rebuilt? A. As long as your engine is mechanically sound, a motor oil isn’t going to cause leaks–whether it’s conventional or synthetic. If it’s leak-free and in good shape, use a synthetic oil to provide maximum protection. The same goes for healthy rebuilt engines. If your engine is older and does leak, the problem could be seals and gaskets that have become brittle or worn. Even if the engine doesn’t leak, those seals could still be in poor condition. Sometimes sludge builds up enough to effectively prevent oil from slipping past deteriorated seals or gaskets. Using a high-quality synthetic oil with good detergency can dissolve that sludge and reveal the true condition of the seals, causing leaks. If you suspect your engine falls into this category, we recommend sticking with a conventional oil. LEN GROOM Technical product manager Amsoil A. In most cases, classic engines that have been using conventional oil for several years should stay with conventional oil. The seals get accustomed to the lubricant, and big changes (like switching from conventional to synthetic) can cause them to leak. For rarely driven cars, the risk is not worth the reward, so just stick with conventional oil. Now, if the engine is getting rebuilt, then you can go with synthetic (and then stay with synthetic) after the breaking-in process. LAKE SPEED JR. Certified lubrication specialist Driven Racing Oil Q. How much zinc does my older engine need? A. It depends on the engine’s make, model and vintage as well as its purpose–is it for racing or just the occasional trip around town? Modern engine oils are formulated to be backward-compatible with older stock gasoline engines. However, plenty of modified older engines are out there with flat tappets and aggressive performance cams. For these souped-up old-timers, a higher-zinc oil (like some racing oils) might be prudent. Defer to OEM recommendations for stock engines and to the engine builder’s recommendations for modified engines. VALVOLINE TECHNOLOGY TEAM Compiled by Josh Frederick OEM technical manager A. I recommend above 1200 ppm if it has a flat-tappet cam and lifters. MANUEL A. GUTIÉRREZ Director of marketing Lucas Oil Q. Do you recommend using a zinc additive in older engines? A. Engine oils are a very precise balance of additive components and base oil(s) that work in harmony to provide the desired lubrication. The introduction of any type of additional additive disrupts this formulation synergy–like jamming an extra piece in a puzzle that’s already complete. This change in harmony can have a negative effect on the performance of the oil, not to mention change its identity. Bottom line: Additional aftermarket additives are not needed. Frankly, if an end user relies on an additive to change some aspect of their oil’s performance, then they’re using the wrong oil. KENNETH M. TYGER Director of Technical Services Penn Grade PennGrade1 Lubricants A. We never recommend using aftermarket oil additives. Engine oils are designed with a fine balance of base oils and additives designed to work holistically to provide optimal protection and performance. A properly formulated oil for the intended application doesn’t require aftermarket additives to provide good protection. In fact, adding aftermarket additives can disrupt the oil formulation and reduce protection. LEN GROOM Technical product manager Amsoil A. No! If your oil needs an additive to properly protect your engine, then you need a different oil. LAKE SPEED JR. Certified lubrication specialist Driven Racing Oil
    4 points
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