Lou Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Body tag from 70 built at Flint Assembly has "19 19" for upper and lower body color, but my car has a black vinyl top. Is this common for a body tag to not have the presence of a vinyl top reflected in the tag or could someone have added the top after-market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Do you have a photo of the vinyl top? Does the vinyl roof go all the way to the drip rails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 The factory vinyl top had a painted gap between the drip rail and the vinyl roof trim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1of80 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Your car is a non vinyl top car. Without seeing pics couldn't tell you if it was dealer installed or aftermarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 19-19 is indicating it left the factory as a Tuxedo Black body and Tuxedo Black painted roof. As stated above, not a factory vinyl roof. Let's see some pictures. rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 Trying to figure out how to do pics. I'm on a phone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 iPhone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 Android. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dtret Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Looks like you figured it out. Nice looking car. Sweet engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Engine still on the stand in the garage. It's got a 307/TH350 right now. This will be a driving restoration. Not a good candidate for frame off. But I will wipe down the underbody and frame. Car hasn't seen winter for the better part of 50 years, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Rob Peters said: 19-19 is indicating it left the factory as a Tuxedo Black body and Tuxedo Black painted roof. As stated above, not a factory vinyl roof. Let's see some pictures. rob Another clue. Man I have my work cut out for me under the vinyl. The sail seam has no lead. Looks like bondo. Front and rear window channels look good, thank God! Man, I don't get kids today. I bought my son a car cover and a vinyl conditioning kit and this is the end result:  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 It has the factory style top trim but according to your tag it did not have a vinyl top. 19 19 suggests it was a black car with black painted top. If it had black vinyl top the paint code would be 19 A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Yeah, that's why I posted this info and question because I always wondered about that. Whoever installed the top made it look like a factory install. I work at GM Parma Metal Center and I can hear the supervisor in my ear 50 years ago: "If the tag says black upper and lower just leave it alone. A blind man can see it has a vinyl top. We need this car out the door so ship it!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bell Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 The vinyl break molding clip locations look to have holes. Were the clips riveted on? The factory clips slid onto studs that were welded to the roof. A dealership adding a vinyl top might attach the needed clips with rivets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 The lower sails where they meet with top of quarter panel had screws holding the clips. All other clips were/are studded; top of windows, behind quarter windows, and deck filler panel. Top was not full halo and no lead used in quarter to roof seams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Luckily, I have good, solid steel around the whole perimeter of roof so a roof skin can be utilized as a patch and not a full roof replacement. New vinyl top will be going back on so I want pics and record of what was done for any future owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Ya know, my first 69 Chevelle ($800) was pulled out of a front yard where it had been for years and when I removed the vinyl top I didn't have anything like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Of coarse, the vinyl didn't look like this either: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Man, why didn't the factory use epoxy primer back in the day......😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leghome Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/20/2020 at 4:32 PM, Lou said: Man, why didn't the factory use epoxy primer back in the day......😂😂😂 Because it was invented yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71MonteCarloMD Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 6:28 PM, Leghome said: Because it was invented yet Did you meant it wasn’t invented yet? 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leghome Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 That really does make more sense LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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