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riverdogs00

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Group,

Doing a 4 speed conversion on a 70', and I wondered if anyone had a
Clear picture of their Z-bar frame bracket.  The conversion kit I bought was pretty complete, but its obvious the frame bracket is wrong.  I just wanted to see if it makes sense to modify the one I have, or try to make one. I could potentially remove the forward bolt, and swing into place and redrill, but am wondering about the height of the notch. Seems like a pic I saw from ss454-71 showed a bracket that was taller. 

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Hey, Mike,

As you have already learned, the Z-bar frame bracket is unique to the Monte.   Here is a link to an older thread on 4-speed conversions that confirms that fact: https://www.firstgenmc.com/forums/index.php?/topic/13767-my-4-speed-conversion/

Unfortunately, I don't believe that thread identifies a source for the correct Monte bracket but maybe you can take a closer look.  I would guess that a search for an original bracket might be long and difficult as so few manual transmissions were installed in first gen Montes.  Good luck.

 

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SS396 has this one, says 'picture may be different than actual part'., doubtful it's the correct one though. Looks like the same one offered in the entire kit.

https://www.ss396.com/monte-carlo/FB-566.html?Category_Code=monte-carlo-clutchzbar

 

This place has one, at least it appears to have the correct GM part number for 70-72 Monte, 3972641, as referenced in the 4-speed conversion website.

https://www.classicmuscle.com/p-1968-1977-monte-carlo-frame-bracket-3972641

 

This old thread addresses it as well:

https://www.firstgenmc.com/forums/index.php?/topic/5703-clutch-pedal-interchanges/#comment-67397

 

Another option, if you're not too concerned about appearances would be a hydraulic conversion. I just put one in my Camaro, so far I'm really pleased with it. Eliminates all the linkages, slop, hard pedal, etc. I hid the small fluid reservoir behind the power brake booster, barely noticeable. 

 

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17 hours ago, riverdogs00 said:

I called the parts place this am. They assured me that the part, while not pictured, is the correct one for our cars. I ordered...we will see

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5 hours ago, jft69z said:

SS396 has this one, says 'picture may be different than actual part'., doubtful it's the correct one though. Looks like the same one offered in the entire kit.

https://www.ss396.com/monte-carlo/FB-566.html?Category_Code=monte-carlo-clutchzbar

 

This place has one, at least it appears to have the correct GM part number for 70-72 Monte, 3972641, as referenced in the 4-speed conversion website.

https://www.classicmuscle.com/p-1968-1977-monte-carlo-frame-bracket-3972641

 

This old thread addresses it as well:

https://www.firstgenmc.com/forums/index.php?/topic/5703-clutch-pedal-interchanges/#comment-67397

 

Another option, if you're not too concerned about appearances would be a hydraulic conversion. I just put one in my Camaro, so far I'm really pleased with it. Eliminates all the linkages, slop, hard pedal, etc. I hid the small fluid reservoir behind the power brake booster, barely noticeable. 

 

The bracket shown on the 396 site is what I have already received and its incorrect. The second site has the correct bracket, it appears but the store is closed ha.  Just my luck

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1 hour ago, riverdogs00 said:

The bracket shown on the 396 site is what I have already received and its incorrect. The second site has the correct bracket, it appears but the store is closed ha.  Just my luck

Let us know how it works out. 

That other place appears to be affiliated with GM Wholesale Direct, and is also a Chevy dealer (Modern Chevy, as well as a bunch of other brands). They list a couple different phone numbers, if the Parts Place doesn't work out.

https://www.classicmuscle.com/about

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Group, These pics are only for reference for future searches of this topic. Shown is the incorrect bracket for the GM A body that is too short for our cars, as well as a clear picture of the correct bracket. Hopefully it will help others in the future. I will let you know if the $14.00 bracket from the parts place is the correct one when it arrives today. If not, then its the $65.00 used bracket on Ebay.

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New bracket arrived from the parts place - looks correct. Posting a few pics of it, with their contact info and part number, and side by side with the traditional GM a body part.  Thx to Montemedic for the tip.  It was $14 vs $65 for the used item.

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