Ordered new tq convertor

[jbird72]

So..ordered 2 different tq conv from summit both are in reccomended range from each company. 1st is a boss hog..liked the name mixed reveiws...anyone heard of these before ....2nd is tci...tci was 180 more...figured id see the quality and send the lessor back...

[Scott S.]

Rebuilds or brand new ???

I wasn't impressed with the TCI version that came with Montelishi...... The entire transmission was one of their rebuilds. (TH 350) 

Slipped a bit, and when I swapped in the 200r4, I found that they'd used a "lock up" case for the torque for the TH 350. My transmission guy thought that was pretty strange of them to do. 

 

[jbird72]

7 minutes ago, Scott S. said:

Rebuilds or brand new ???

I wasn't impressed with the TCI version that came with Montelishi...... The entire transmission was one of their rebuilds. (TH 350) 

Slipped a bit, and when I swapped in the 200r4, I found that they'd used a "lock up" case for the torque for the TH 350. My transmission guy thought that was pretty strange of them to do. 

 

I have both comn...im gonna return both lol..goin with tsi. Same price as tci. Better reveiws. Use billet cover..torrington bearings...made in usa..custom to my build. Plus includes anti balloon plate wich really dont need id hope. ....good thing summit returns free...this is nit easy decision ugg

[jbird72]

Just now, jbird72 said:

I have both comn...im gonna return both lol..goin with tsi. Same price as tci. Better reveiws. Use billet cover..torrington bearings...made in usa..custom to my build. Plus includes anti balloon plate wich really dont need id hope. ....good thing summit returns free...this is nit easy decision ugg

Yeah lock up be more for racing. Thatll take yrs off tranny life yud think..

[Scott S.]

4 minutes ago, jbird72 said:

I have both comn...im gonna return both lol..goin with tsi. Same price as tci. Better reveiws. Use billet cover..torrington bearings...made in usa..custom to my build. Plus includes anti balloon plate wich really dont need id hope. ....good thing summit returns free...this is nit easy decision ugg

I don't think you're running enough torque/horsepower to warrant the plate, but if it's already there and balanced, it can't hurt much. 

[Scott S.]

4 minutes ago, jbird72 said:

Yeah lock up be more for racing. Thatll take yrs off tranny life yud think..

Well, if it was hooked up, it might have made sense..... But there wasn't anything to activate it. Kinda stumped both of us.

My understanding of the lock up is that it's more for long use, steady RPM driving. Keeps the fluid cooler. 

[jbird72]

5 minutes ago, Scott S. said:

I don't think you're running enough torque/horsepower to warrant the plate, but if it's already there and balanced, it can't hurt much. 

No im not not even close. I dunno i might just run the tci. Yu said you had a bad one. I have alot of money in trans. Dont want a faulty convertor...thing is all these reveiws except tsi were from over 5 yrs ago..some almost 20

[jbird72]

2 minutes ago, Scott S. said:

Well, if it was hooked up, it might have made sense..... But there wasn't anything to activate it. Kinda stumped both of us.

My understanding of the lock up is that it's more for long use, steady RPM driving. Keeps the fluid cooler. 

Ohh gotcha. I thought was so lets say yu have a 2600 to 2800 stall yu could set lock at let say 2700...thats what i thought to eliminate any slip

[Scott S.]

Oh no.... 

A lock up torque uses a pressure solenoid to press the input and driven plates together for direct contact. Eliminates the fluid friction and keeps it cooler.

Just had a look at TSI's website. 

Looks like they know what they're talking about. (fingers crossed) 

[jbird72]

3 minutes ago, Scott S. said:

Oh no.... 

A lock up torque uses a pressure solenoid to press the input and driven plates together for direct contact. Eliminates the fluid friction and keeps it cooler.

Just had a look at TSI's website. 

Looks like they know what they're talking about. (fingers crossed) 

Yeah. ..heard of freakshow converters? half price. Waitin ti see what tsi comes back with. 2 diff companies 2 diff recomendations..cam starts makin real power around 3000 so will see..doesnt have alot of torgue off start

 

 

y so well see 

[jbird72]

7 minutes ago, Scott S. said:

Oh no.... 

A lock up torque uses a pressure solenoid to press the input and driven plates together for direct contact. Eliminates the fluid friction and keeps it cooler.

Just had a look at TSI's website. 

Looks like they know what they're talking about. (fingers crossed) 

Look up boss hog. There website looks like theyre the best lol...but bad reviews. Bout welds and slippage

[Scott S.]

Had to look that one up..... 

Looks like a very specialize shop/builder. 

Be interesting to see what kind of reviews he has.... But if they're good, might be worth checking out. 

[Scott S.]

5 minutes ago, jbird72 said:

Look up boss hog. There website looks like theyre the best lol...but bad reviews. Bout welds and slippage

Sounds like an "assembly line" type of manufacture. 

Quality control issues. Welded to fast or to hot. 

And maybe "ballooning" ????  

[Scott S.]

8 minutes ago, Scott S. said:

Sounds like an "assembly line" type of manufacture. 

Quality control issues. Welded to fast or to hot. 

And maybe "ballooning" ????  

fairly mixed reviews..... I guess it all depends on what you're expecting to get out of it. 

[jbird72]

1 hour ago, Scott S. said:

Sounds like an "assembly line" type of manufacture. 

Quality control issues. Welded to fast or to hot. 

And maybe "ballooning" ????  

Yeah. I dunno its a 2800 to 3200 convertor wich i think would be perfect for streetv I might keep the boss hog...could be people installing them not spacing right...no cooler ..etc..

[Leghome]

When I got my 72 in 2011 it just didn’t seem to shift correctly and sometimes the starter would spin, not engage and grind.  My mechanic son in-law crawled under the car and found th PO had installed the flex plate backwards. Put on another flex plate correctly and both problems cleared up

[jbird72]

1 minute ago, Leghome said:

When I got my 72 in 2011 it just didn’t seem to shift correctly and sometimes the starter would spin, not engage and grind.  My mechanic son in-law crawled under the car and found th PO had installed the flex plate backwards. Put on another flex plate correctly and both problems cleared up

Wow!!...

[jbird72]

Just now, jbird72 said:

Wow!!...

The only thing i dint like. And itll prolly help when the proper stall .. is its in 3rd gear at like 25 mph..or its a modulator im thinkin...but if i shift manually she shifts perfect and solid shift kit helps that 

[72 Monte Carlo]

https://www.a-1perf.com/

I had this company build my 2,500 stall converter for my 72 Monte. They custom build the converter to your engine, camshaft requirements, transmission, rearend gear ratio, rear tire size, exhaust, carb, etc. 

They have been building custom torque converters and transmissions since 1959, and their converters have been used by many racers, including my personal good friend that drag races his fox body mustang. 

They're very familiar with the variable rpm stall issue that quite a few B & M holeshot converters exhibit. 

[jbird72]

7 hours ago, 72 Monte Carlo said:

https://www.a-1perf.com/

I had this company build my 2,500 stall converter for my 72 Monte. They custom build the converter to your engine, camshaft requirements, transmission, rearend gear ratio, rear tire size, exhaust, carb, etc. 

They have been building custom torque converters and transmissions since 1959, and their converters have been used by many racers, including my personal good friend that drag races his fox body mustang. 

They're very familiar with the variable rpm stall issue that quite a few B & M holeshot converters exhibit. 

I thk im gonna go with the acc...its paid for. All new reviews are good..old ones 50/50.companys do grow .ill definatly keep that info..i spoke with owner directly  who took time to  design on phn with me and is sending a custom one out...ill send the tci back. Was told then are junk...if dont work out or isnt as tight as i like ill defenitly be sending back or haven them fix it. He gave me that garantee...well see

[jbird72]

7 hours ago, 72 Monte Carlo said:

https://www.a-1perf.com/

I had this company build my 2,500 stall converter for my 72 Monte. They custom build the converter to your engine, camshaft requirements, transmission, rearend gear ratio, rear tire size, exhaust, carb, etc. 

They have been building custom torque converters and transmissions since 1959, and their converters have been used by many racers, including my personal good friend that drag races his fox body mustang. 

They're very familiar with the variable rpm stall issue that quite a few B & M holeshot converters exhibit. 

Ynow what ill go ahead and call these guys thanks

[72 Monte Carlo]

3 minutes ago, jbird72 said:

Ynow what ill go ahead and call these guys thanks

I talked to the owner over the phone before I ordered mine from him. He was very, very knowledgeable and explained why they need all the info on your vehicle in the custom order/build form. so it helps them build the converter to match your car's build. He stated that their converter stall speed will always be at the stated rpm it is built for and isn't a variable rpm stall like 2,800 - 3,200 rpm. I think I paid around $390 - $400 shipped for mine when I had them build it for me.

[jbird72]

4 minutes ago, 72 Monte Carlo said:

I talked to the owner over the phone before I ordered mine from him. He was very, very knowledgeable and explained why they need all the info on your vehicle in the custom order/build form. so it helps them build the converter to match your car's build. He stated that their converter stall speed will always be at the stated rpm it is built for and isn't a variable rpm stall like 2,800 - 3,200 rpm. I think I paid around $390 - $400 shipped for mine when I had them build it for me.

How long ago ...and do yu drive like a gramma i sure dont lol

[72 Monte Carlo]

I think it was in 2023 when I had them build my converter. 

I don't drive like a grandpa or grandma. 

My Monte is in the process of getting repainted for the last few years, so I've only drove it down the street to my body shop friend's shop a couple of times, and I haven't been able to drive it out on the roads yet. Hopefully we are painting it within 30 days now. 

The built 414 ci Big Block I have in it, has a Lunati Voodoo Camshaft 10110703LUN cam, valve springs, timing kit, with oversized Ferrea SS racing valves, heads opened up some, big tube Hooker Competition ceramic coated headers, etc.

[jbird72]

1 hour ago, 72 Monte Carlo said:

I think it was in 2023 when I had them build my converter. 

I don't drive like a grandpa or grandma. 

My Monte is in the process of getting repainted for the last few years, so I've only drove it down the street to my body shop friend's shop a couple of times, and I haven't been able to drive it out on the roads yet. Hopefully we are painting it within 30 days now. 

The built 414 ci Big Block I have in it, has a Lunati Voodoo Camshaft 10110703LUN cam, valve springs, timing kit, with oversized Ferrea SS racing valves, heads opened up some, big tube Hooker Competition ceramic coated headers, etc.

Nice!!