amsterdam84 Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I have a very odd crash that only occurs when the computer has been shutdown and allowed to cool. If I restart it it acts fine but if left say overnight it will crash on startup. Strange thing is, after I reset from the crash it's fine. Anyone have any thoughts? P.s. It is a custom built computer that up to this point never did this before. EDIT: I wrote this messege on my phone and had my computer off for the night. I turned it on this morning and had a shower and it had blue screened with the error MEMORY_MANAGEMENT. I have tested my ram with memtest for 12 hours with zero errors. Not sure what this could be as I haven't added anything new lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdam84 Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 Power supply is new actually. 650 watt. I don't think it's that but i could be wrong. It was doing the crashing before I changed it as well. I had a bad unit where the fan was sticking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte70car Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I went down that road two years ago, I went as far as replacing the power supply and the mother board(old power supply was a 400 watt unit & mother board was a winfast). For it would come up and say no os found on drive, so I would go back and reload the os and all the software I needed. Mike which os are you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdam84 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 I am running vista 32bit. E6750 core 2 duo. Asus p5n-e sli motherboard. 4x1gb ddr2 corsair ram. Bfg 8800 gt oc sli. 1 160 gb harddrive (os). Raid 0 2x500gb. This machine has been running for over a year with no problems. I started getting some bsod's around the time I added a wireless pci card. They seemed to have the error irql not less than equal. But they subsides now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I am running vista 32bit. E6750 core 2 duo. Asus p5n-e sli motherboard. 4x1gb ddr2 corsair ram. Bfg 8800 gt oc sli. 1 160 gb harddrive (os). Raid 0 2x500gb. This machine has been running for over a year with no problems. I started getting some bsod's around the time I added a wireless pci card. They seemed to have the error irql not less than equal. But they subsides now. Mike, dude, get out of the house and get some air.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN454Monte Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Sorry if I am stating the obvious, but make sure things like whatever add on cards like the wireless and video card are seated, FIRMLY. I'm assuming you are running a SATA RAID and not using a SCSI card. But check your SATA cables, it doesn't take much for one of them to work loose. Your symptoms sound strangely like a brand new Dell 2950 server I wrestled with for quite some time trying to figure out it's mysterious crashes. One of the PCI risers was loose, and with just enough vibration, i.e. some one closing a rack door ..it would break connection and the server would crash. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 okay...both of you go outside and get some air..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN454Monte Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 okay...both of you go outside and get some air..... Building computers is just like building a car Davey...ya gotta get under that hood and tinker with them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdam84 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Yeah nothing like knowing what's under the "hood". I have checked both video cards and did some cable management and made sure everything was seated and connected firmly. As far as the wireless card, I have been hesitant to remove it as it is my only method of connecting to the Internet. I know I should remove and test but just haven't done that yet. Did I mention that I despise wireless Internet? Not gaming friendly. Oh and I don't want to go outside because the car is in storage and it's cold outside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Originally Posted By: Reds72WMonte okay...both of you go outside and get some air..... Building computers is just like building a car Davey...ya gotta get under that hood and tinker with them.. I'm just jealous of people that can speak more than one language...you, Mike, Allan.....geezzz...my hat's off to you guys, I get a headache just reading the descriptions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte70car Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 my name was brought up thank god. Mike again you have a very nice rig. I think I pull the wireless card since it seems thats when the trouble started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Originally Posted By: Reds72WMonte okay...both of you go outside and get some air..... Besides the whole get under the hood and tweak thing, I have a laptop in the garage that I do quite a bit of my surfing on. You never know when someone will come out with a better mousetrap. I have all of my service manuals and store all of my pictures online so when I need reference there is much less grease on my books. Yes, my laptop has a cover over the keys. I practice safe computing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN454Monte Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Originally Posted By: Reds72WMonte okay...both of you go outside and get some air..... Besides the whole get under the hood and tweak thing, I have a laptop in the garage that I do quite a bit of my surfing on. You never know when someone will come out with a better mousetrap. I have all of my service manuals and store all of my pictures online so when I need reference there is much less grease on my books. Yes, my laptop has a cover over the keys. I practice safe computing. Ahhh...I see!! So THAT'S what a "Trojan" is!??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 oh that was really bad Greg..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 oh my... you guys are so wrong on so many levels!!! sounds like a loose connection somewhere to me.. make sure everything is tight.. Sue (leo's wife)'s computer got to where it would only run long enough to boot.. then crash.. and it wouldnt' restart unless it sat... I popped the cover off.. the plastic tabs on the cpu socket (it's the old socket 360 intel celery) that hold the cpu heat sink clip had broken away.. with no heat sink on the cpu it only took a couple minutes to overheat... I re-attached the heat sink with zip ties.. so far so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallaby Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I guess it's better than sheet metal screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 welding???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Pop Rivets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 how else do you attach a heat sink to a socket 360 when the plastic mounting tabs are broken off!? I like my dell Dimension's setup. it's got a large fan in the front of the case, and a large duct the directs the air directly over the cpu's heat sink.. those big fans are quieter.. and seem to be a lot more reliable! funny enough.. my dimension had a odd crash this morning I have xp pro SP3 it just locked up on me. wouldn't respond even to a 3 finger salute.. I hit the power switch.. it did what appeared to be a clean shut down (didn't just power down) when it came back up it complained about the volume being dirty and went thru the XP version of scandisk.. seems ok now.. had me a little worried there... it's a P4 3ghz 'hyperthread' cpu (it's about 6 years old now) 3gb ram, SATA hard drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdam84 Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 I guess that's just Microsoft for you. My computer has gotten a lot slower since first building it si I might b time for a reformat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 this computer has been trouble free for the most part.. once I got rid of a couple of flakey .DLL's that I didn't use anyway.. i haven't defrag'd it in a while. .problaby wouldn't hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdam84 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Sorry about dredging up an old post but I ended up moving to a new house and decided it was time to remove the wireless card. After further checking all connections it still crashes once when left off for a few hours. Tried pulling ram and running on single sticks, ram memtest and nothing. On a side note this copy of Vista is actually meant for a Dell machine. Not sure if that makes a difference. It had run for over a year without any crashes or errors before this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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