Thumper72 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 I know....I know... but we got this clown that comes to the local car shows SWEARS his 72 is an SS 454 and passes it off as such. I haven't called him on it as he is a loudmouth know it all and I'm not one to start a war at a car show. He claims that only 271 were built in 72. I haven't checked the VIN yet as I try to stay away from him and his BS, but I suspect it is a smallblock car just like ours. Is there even a remote chance it's possible? He won't join this site ( I wonder why?) probably because he don't want to know the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Richey Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 "W" would indicate a 454 car, and look for signs of it being a Custom... Beltline Trim, Sport Mirror, special steering wheel thats says Chevrolet, F-41 Suspension(large front sway bar and rear sway bar). U would indicate a 402 Big Block, J a 350-4 barrel, H- 2barrel 350. What engine does he say the car has now? And no way its a 72 SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper72 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share Posted June 25, 2010 He swears its all original which I know is BS. It's not a Custom..I looked it over first time I seen it and it dosen't have the Custom parts. Next time I see it I'll check the VIN. I knew it was bogus when I seen it, I just wanted to make sure I had my facts straight. Thanks for reaffirming my sanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigscaht Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 I hate when people dont know anything about their car but will argue to their grave that they know everything......where is he..Ill call him out..Ill call his bluff.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2montes Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 What I like to do with people like that is not even acknowledge them but instead when I am looking at their car with friends I will point out to my friends the errors in their way. For instance just make sure this guy is in earshot and tell your friend that there were no 72 SS made but they did do customs. Then you can further explain why this one doesn't appear to be a custom and by the vin whether or not it is a big block car. Then if he tries to contradict you it will open up the conversation for you to set him straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnewlin Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Unfortunately it happens quite often. My main concern is for the unknowing buyer than runs across these cars along with all of the 70 and 71 advertised as SS's that many times are far from it. The few sellers that i have talked with seem totally oblivious to the tell signs and are extremely defensive. Wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72 LS5 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 You gotta sneak a peak at that VIN and look for the W like Jared said - then you would at least know its a real 454. Either way, no SS 72s have ever been revealed my 24 year FGMC addiction. I think its time to squash his pipe dream, before others get corrupted........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Auto Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Mikey, sell me that car!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72 LS5 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Hey Andy........pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 reminds me of the guy I met at Dream Cruise last year that said..."those are SS tail lights" I politely asked... "what makes them SS ?" I didn't get a answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper72 Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share Posted June 26, 2010 I just seen the car again tonite at a cruise -in. He had the VIN covered where you couldn't see it....LOL. It's white with a tan top and he told me that there were only 12 72's made with a tan top.....I had to call BS on that as I seen a heck of lot more than 12 with tan tops. He priced it to a guy tonite for....get this....35,000 dollars! I about spit coke all over the place. This just gets better and better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overdrive Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 1. Ask him where the air compressor is. 2. See if he knows where they mounted. 3. Does it even have a 12 bolt rear? 4. Check the fan shroud to see if it's for a small block or a big block. 5. Does it have a TH400 or TH350? 6. Maybe he'll let you check out the VIN 7. You could tell him to check out this site and post some pics of his very rare car. Maybe he would want to try to sell it here. I'm sure someone would educate him. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allchevy Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Does the W in the vin only apply to the 72's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte70car Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Yes the W only apply to 72 models. 70 and 71 there was no way to tell what size motor org. came in the cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 look to see if it has boxed lower control arms and a rear sway bar...'72 W cars had them...see if you can tell if it has a 3/8" fuel line...at least that would be a big block... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allchevy Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Good then mine must have been a big block! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall72 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Dagnabbit! My 72 had a tan vinyl roof originally before I took it off during the restoration...looks like there are only 11 left now. Tell the guy to add an extra 5-8 grand to his asking price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteman1971 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 To funny.....It just goes to show "Buyer Beware"..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane92g Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This was a good thread, I learned a lot from this discussion determining whether my 72 Monte is a true 454. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim's 70 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hey now...my 72 w code, special order black, convertable, 4spd, ls6, air ride, hurst shifted, through a "munson" 8 speed, 14 bolt, posi with factory slicks and cool air cleaner decal must ne worth alot more than 35k...how do you post e-bay ads?? I hate the b.s. Build whatever you want, but dont try to pass it off as something it's not. I would probably buy a 350 car converted into a 454 with options and "cool options" over an original 100 point resto. That's my taste. To each their own, but I get real uppitywhen its supposed to be a "rare" factory car and the "seller" hides the proof. Heck, we all have heard of people that took a rare car, added options it wasn't "born" with the correct way, did not hide this fact, and still got what the car was worth...so why play these games to try to dupe somebody?? Heck..I'm as greedy as the next guy...but i also own a mirror...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mau Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Build whatever you want, but dont try to pass it off as something it's not...we all have heard of people that took a rare car, added options it wasn't "born" with the correct way, did not hide this fact, and still got what the car was worth...so why play these games to try to dupe somebody?? Heck..I'm as greedy as the next guy...but i also own a mirror...... Well put, Jim. A cool car is a cool car, and being straight-forward about it enhances that fact. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateZ Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 reminds me of the guy I met at Dream Cruise last year that said..."those are SS tail lights" I politely asked... "what makes them SS ?" I didn't get a answer Actually Sam, those are "SS" tail lights you have. The "SS" stands for "Super Shiney!" Sorry, couldn't resist. I've been today and even though my wife said , I and and posted it anyway. I'm that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejw71 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 My view is to let them rant on. I would advise someone as to the true nature of the car only if I was asked. Of course, this asumes that I know the true nature of the car. Some of you might remember me (favorably or unfavorably) as Sgt Ed of the SS454 Police. Yea, been away work'n on old GMs. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 reminds me of the guy I met at Dream Cruise last year that said..."those are SS tail lights" I politely asked... "what makes them SS ?" I didn't get a answer Also ask him if he has the ss fan shroud and the discombobulater valve and see if he says yea i got all that then ask hime if he has the ss tilt release lever that says ss on the end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Actually Sam, those are "SS" tail lights you have. The "SS" stands for "Super Shiney!" Sorry, couldn't resist. I've been today and even though my wife said , I and and posted it anyway. I'm that way. actually Nate they are SH lights Shiny Hiney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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