maddmann313 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I got a holley 600 list number 1850 and i got it put on and and everything hooked up but I dont think its right... I started it for the 1st time and it sounded good but then when i hit the gas it stalled, and there was a big cloud of black smoke!! Then i listened to the motor while it was off and it would click and then 4 seconds later it would click again. Also as i said im not sure if everything is hooked up right and i was wondering if anyone had a diagram on where all the vacuum line and things run, i will post pictures later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Auto Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 This can't be good. Or it might be nothing. Pull a plug and see if it is carbon soaked. A few possibilities but I would lean to maybe a stuck float. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 Its not a good picture but yes the plugs are carbon soaked, that mens its rich, what are the settings for a holleys mixture scews? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Did you follow the directions that came with the carb and set the float levels? Holley says they're pre-set, but mine were way off when I bought a brand new carb. that picture is rough, but those plugs don't look fouled.. just that the engine was definitely a little rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Yes the floats were set perfect! And the reason that plug doesnt look fouled is because it was from a phone camera and the flash was on. Also what hoses hook up where on this carb? I know I have the fuel line right and the one from the pcv right what about the lines from the charcoal canister and the line from the brake booster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 The throttle cable hookups... not sure if they are right mystery line Where do I hook this up its the line that come out of the brake booster What hooks up here? Its on the base plate on the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 the baseplate at the front should be where your vacuumm modulator line hooks up. if that's hooked up to the fitting in the back of the intake, you can use this for your A/C controls if you have a/c your vac. advance cansister should be on manifold vac. but some people like it on the ported side. whatever makes you happy is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Whooooaaa!!! slow down there give me land marks on the carb... saying modulators and widger didgers, and thingys is way over my head! tell me what hooks up where please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteFox89 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I just put on a Holley 650 the other month. I'll take some pictures tonight or tomorrow and have them up for you. are you running a vaccum advance Distributor? also... that line running from your brake booster... goes in the back of your carb down near the very bottom... DON'T DRIVE WITHOUT IT! it makes stopping VERY difficult and there is a very good chance it will hardly run as well... one last thing before I provide pics is, those little screws on the sides of your bowls... I turned them all the way in then turned them out 3/4ths of a turn and the car ran great after that. anyways... yeah I'll get pics for you tomorrow if that's ok... OR if you're online now I can go get them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Yea I noticed that it makes it difficult to stop and yes I have a vacuum advance distributer, take pictures of every vacuum line where they come from and where they go! Also one of my friends came over and fixed the idle screws so as far as that goes it's fine. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Auto Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 You did it? You are now a man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Well I thought I did it but so no not untill he puts this pics up I havent dpne it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 that's right.. you are learning.. no pics.. it didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 your vacuum modulator is on the transmission.. there should be a steel line going down the back of the engine on the passenger side to it. that would connect to that front fitting. if that line is already connected to the fitting in the back of the manifold, then you can bring the vacuum line from your vacuum pod over to that fitting, if you have a car that had A/C from the factory. looking at that picture labeled 'mystery line' I believe your vac. modulator and A/C are both connected to the intake.. so that fitting at the front should go to your distributor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 The mystery line is the line from the brake booster... I know what it does now but don't know where to hook it up... And I'm waiting on the pictures from montefox89 befor I star messing with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 you are going to have a problem with that mystery line because the carb only has one fitting of that size. that 'mystery line' is the vacuum line to feed your brake booster for power brakes. that small fitting in the intake with the two small lines is going to have to be replaced with one with a fitting for your power brakes, so that your PCV system can use the large fitting on the carb.. You really don't want PCV and power brakes sharing a vac line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Are you talking about this peice? This is from the 1st pic and it's behind the carb. Also your saying i would have to find a fitting to have the 2 line that are on it now and the brake booster line??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 yeah.. with your new carb, that' where your mystery line from the brake booster will need to connect. there should also be a large 3/8" fitting on the carb.. either in the back, or on the passenger side.. that's where your PCV valve would attach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Yes I have the fitting on the back passenger side hooked up to pcv... But where do I put that line from the brake booster? Also what goes on that front fitting I have circled in black? And the other line coming from the coal canister that ts, one side to the carb and one side to the distributer where does it hook up on the carb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 the first two questions have already been answered.. as for the charcoal canister.. that's a real pain to hookup.. unlesss you have to pass a state inspection with your car, I wouldn't worry about hooking it back up. There are two lines for the charcoal cansister.. the smaller one is the 'control' line.. that goes to a PORTED vacuum source which will be a small nipple high on the front of the carb. the larger of the two needs to go to manifold vacuum which would tee in one of those lines going to that fitting at the back of the manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 btw.. your throttle hookup is right, except you need to go to the parts store and get a 'kick down stud assortment kit' ... most places that sell holley stuff should have it.. i think it runs about $11.. that will let you hook your kick down cable up so your trans will downshift when you step on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 So the smaller one goes to he nipple ne'er the front fuel bowl? And I got 2 more line one for the pcv which is hooked up right and the other is on a metal tube I think runs to the gas tank... Sorry to be a pian in the butt but I'm more of a visual guy! And yea unfortunately I do have to pass a state inspection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 in your picture above where you outlined the fitting you had questions about.. There is another rubber line connected sticking out the side of the carb right by the float level window.. where's that going? that nipple is where the smaller of the two charcoal canister lines needs to go. if that line is for the distributor, just add a t-fitting. the larger one would go to the fitting you outlined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc8oye Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Are you talking about this peice? This is from the 1st pic and it's behind the carb. Also your saying i would have to find a fitting to have the 2 line that are on it now and the brake booster line??? yes, exactly what I'm saying.. Call Leo.. he has them available. 810-334-4162 you can also make what you need out of hardware store fittings.. like I did back in the early days left smaller hose goes to the transmission.. large hose to the right goes to my brake booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmann313 Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Thanks for telling me that but can't I just rob the one off of the o quadrajunk? Also when the car is at idle if I press the gas peddle the carb makes a sucking noise and then acts like it wants to stall why is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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