Body tag info.

[Lou]

Body tag from 70 built at Flint Assembly has "19 19" for upper and lower body color, but my car has a black vinyl top. Is this common for a body tag to not have the presence of a vinyl top reflected in the tag or could someone have added the top after-market?

[Canuck]

Do you have a photo of the vinyl top? Does the vinyl roof go all the way to the drip rails?

[Canuck]

The factory vinyl top had a painted gap between the drip rail and the vinyl roof trim.

[MC1of80]

Your car is a non vinyl top car. Without seeing pics couldn't tell you if it was dealer installed or aftermarket. 

[Rob Peters]

19-19 is indicating it left the factory as a Tuxedo Black body and Tuxedo Black painted roof.  As stated above, not a factory vinyl roof.  Let's see some pictures.

rob

[Lou]

Trying to figure out how to do pics.

I'm on a phone...

[Dtret]

iPhone?

[Lou]

Android.

[Lou]

[Lou]

[Dtret]

Looks like you figured it out. Nice looking car. Sweet engine

[Lou]

Engine still on the stand in the garage. It's got a 307/TH350 right now. This will be a driving restoration. Not a good candidate for frame off. But I will wipe down the underbody and frame. Car hasn't seen winter for the better part of 50 years, if at all.

[Lou]

9 hours ago, Rob Peters said:

19-19 is indicating it left the factory as a Tuxedo Black body and Tuxedo Black painted roof.  As stated above, not a factory vinyl roof.  Let's see some pictures.

rob

Another clue. Man I have my work cut out for me under the vinyl. The sail seam has no lead. Looks like bondo. Front and rear window channels look good, thank God!

Man, I don't get kids today. I bought my son a car cover and a vinyl conditioning kit and this is the end result:

 

[Canuck]

It has the factory style top trim but according to your tag it did not have a vinyl top. 19 19 suggests it was a black car with black painted top. If it had black vinyl top the paint code would be 19 A.

[Lou]

Yeah, that's why I posted this info and question because I always wondered about that. Whoever installed the top made it look like a factory install.

I work at GM Parma Metal Center and I can hear the supervisor in my ear 50 years ago:

"If the tag says black upper and lower just leave it alone. A blind man can see it has a vinyl top. We need this car out the door so ship it!"

[Paul Bell]

The vinyl break molding clip locations look to have holes. Were the clips riveted on?

The factory clips slid onto studs that were welded to the roof.

A dealership adding a vinyl top might attach the needed clips with rivets.

[Lou]

The lower sails where they meet with top of quarter panel had screws holding the clips. All other clips were/are studded; top of windows, behind quarter windows, and deck filler panel. Top was not full halo and no lead used in quarter to roof seams.

[Lou]

Luckily, I have good, solid steel around the whole perimeter of roof so a roof skin can be utilized as a patch and not a full roof replacement. New vinyl top will be going back on so I want pics and record of what was done for any future owners.

[Lou]

Ya know, my first 69 Chevelle ($800) was pulled out of a front yard where it had been for years and when I removed the vinyl top I didn't have anything like this:

[Lou]

Of coarse, the vinyl didn't look like this either:

[Lou]

Man, why didn't the factory use epoxy primer back in the day......😂😂😂

[Leghome]

On 9/20/2020 at 4:32 PM, Lou said:

Man, why didn't the factory use epoxy primer back in the day......😂😂😂

Because it was invented yet

[71MonteCarloMD]

On 9/22/2020 at 6:28 PM, Leghome said:

Because it was invented yet

Did you meant it wasn’t invented yet? 😅

[Leghome]

That really does make more sense LOL