Clever Idiot Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Hey all! Help? This doesn't look right to me, but I don't think I'm missing anything. https://i.imgur.com/iCSwAU5.mp4 It's the original bracket (dipped in Metal Rescue and painted), the original pivot pin. New bushings, new pivon retainer clip, new brake pedal. Pedal is connected to the master cylinder rod with a new clevice. All the motion seems to be coming from the upper pivot point. Holding the original pedal next to the new one I saw no differences in pivot width or diameters. The only things I haven't put on yet (that I know of) are the bumper, the stop light switch, and the tab that hits the switch. There's no way this amount of movement is normal, right? Second question: looking through the assembly manual it's not clear to me if the pedal should have a return spring or not. I found the diagrams for the brake/clutch and it showed a spring but maybe that was for the clutch? Or maybe it was 1:30am and I was a little cross-eyed... 😵 Quote
Dtret Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Check the inside diameter of the original vs. new one. I’ll bet it’s off. I think that’s to much movement. But may not hurt anything as long as it’s all locked together. Quote
Scott S. Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 The brake pedal doesn't use a return spring.... The release of hydraulic pressure returns it. That way you can tell if your brake system is failing by the amount of push on the pedal. Quote
Scott S. Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Could you place a shim in the pivot point to take some of that out ?? Quote
jft69z Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 That's pretty sloppy. Either the hole in the new pedal is bigger than the original, or the new bushing is not sized as the original possibly?. Doesn't appear to be a lateral 'sliding', side to side problem that a shim would correct, though it may help limit the swing. Looks more like it's 'sloppy' in the hole. (I'm sure Dennis' head is going to explode over that line..🤣) Do you have the old pedal available to see if it works better, or was it replaced due to damage, missing, etc? 2 Quote
Scott S. Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 That's just an "old age" thing...... LOL 2 Quote
Dtret Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 38 minutes ago, jft69z said: That's pretty sloppy. Either the hole in the new pedal is bigger than the original, or the new bushing is not sized as the original possibly?. Doesn't appear to be a lateral 'sliding', side to side problem that a shim would correct, though it may help limit the swing. Looks more like it's 'sloppy' in the hole. (I'm sure Dennis' head is going to explode over that line..🤣) Do you have the old pedal available to see if it works better, or was it replaced due to damage, missing, etc? No comment 1 Quote
jft69z Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Dtret said: No comment That's a first....shocking... 1 Quote
Scott S. Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 That's why sometimes rewiring to 2-20 is required. Quote
Dtret Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, jft69z said: That's a first....shocking... Not a first but possibly a first for you. Stupid banana. 1 Quote
Rob Peters Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Wow, Dennis has been left speechless a lot lately. Not necessarily a bad thing, just an observation on my part. rob 2 Quote
Dtret Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rob Peters said: Wow, Dennis has been left speechless a lot lately. Not necessarily a bad thing, just an observation on my part. rob Some things are better left unsaid. I feel like I’m being picked on. It makes me 😞 Quote
jft69z Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Dtret said: I feel like I’m being picked on. It makes me 😞 Boooo hoooo...poor you. Quote
Dtret Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, jft69z said: Boooo hoooo...poor you. Lol 😂 Quote
Rob Peters Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, Dtret said: Some things are better left unsaid. I feel like I’m being picked on. It makes me 😞 Going from speechless to being a whiner. Come on Dennis man up 🤣 rob Quote
Dtret Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob Peters said: Going from speechless to being a whiner. Come on Dennis man up 🤣 rob Quote
Dtret Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Dtret said: 6 minutes ago, Rob Peters said: Going from speechless to being a whiner. Come on Dennis man up 🤣 rob 😳 Quote
jft69z Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Hahahahahahhaa! Everybody has 'feelings' nowadays....w.t.f.. 1 Quote
Dtret Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 It’s starting to be bad feelings. Hmmmm 🤔 1 Quote
jft69z Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Rob Peters said: THREAD HIJACKED Those are the 'brakes'... There, back on track! Quote
Clever Idiot Posted January 31, 2022 Author Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, jft69z said: That's pretty sloppy. Either the hole in the new pedal is bigger than the original, or the new bushing is not sized as the original possibly?. Doesn't appear to be a lateral 'sliding', side to side problem that a shim would correct, though it may help limit the swing. Looks more like it's 'sloppy' in the hole. (I'm sure Dennis' head is going to explode over that line..🤣) Do you have the old pedal available to see if it works better, or was it replaced due to damage, missing, etc? That’s kinda what I was thinking but I didn’t mic the inner diameters; just eyeballed it. I still have the original. Original bushings too, actually. I’ll take it all apart and put the original back in, with old bushings and then new just for giggles, see if that does any better. If it is then I’ll see if I can dip and paint the original pedal. 1 Quote
jft69z Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Clever Idiot said: I’ll take it all apart and put the original back in, with old bushings and then new just for giggles, see if that does any better. Sounds like a good plan. Let us know if it works better. Quote
Clever Idiot Posted February 1, 2022 Author Posted February 1, 2022 DERP!!! So I went back, took out the new one. Compared the bushings old vs new by setting them on top of each other edge to edge to compare diameters. Perfect match. Aligned the pivot barrels of old vs new and looked down them from both directions. No so much as a millimeter difference. Carefully maneuvered the old rusty pedal by all my new shiny stuff, got the pivot pin in, and it was still shaking. So I decided to memory dump and look at it all over again to see exactly where it was moving where it shouldn’t be moving. And then it dawned on me. The package of pivot bushings came with 4. I assumed it was one pair for a brake pedal and one pair for a clutch pedal. What I saw with new eyes was that there was a whole lot of motion on the ends of the pivot pin where it passed through the bracket (I had put one pair of bushings inside the barrel of the pedal pivot). The other pair was supposed to go in the bracket holes. 🤦🏻♂️ I pulled the old pedal, put in the new one with all four bushings aaaaaand https://i.imgur.com/TNSmk6n.mp4 Quote
MC1of80 Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 That's what's known as an "ahhh haaa!" moment. Congrats on the find! 1 Quote
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