1970 Monte Carlo cowl tag

[cny first gen 71]

Korey I found my build sheet between the foam and cardboard on the back of the front seat, my car is bench seat car. It was in great condition. 

[willie]

1 hour ago, Dtret said:

 No kidding. 350 4 speed car. Thst would be nice in the collection. 

Dennis check the vin for your/not Co car!?!?

[Dtret]

2 hours ago, willie said:

Dennis check the vin for your/not Co car!?!?

Flint built. Dang

[Korey]

9 hours ago, Dtret said:

Flint built. Dang

Is Flint built something good 

[sbarnette]

3 minutes ago, Korey said:

Is Flint built something good 

It means you won’t find a build sheet. No documentation of a build sheet ever being found in a Flint built car.

[Korey]

31 minutes ago, sbarnette said:

It means you won’t find a build sheet. No documentation of a build sheet ever being found in a Flint built car.

Good to know. Thanks for explaining 

[Dtret]

Your car being Baltimore built is a good thing for possibly finding documentation. Apparently GM had a policy in place that stated no build sheets in cars and Flint is the only plant that had, to the best of our knowledge, 100 percent compliance. True or not true I’m not sure but no build sheets have ever been found in Flint cars. 

[Korey]

4 minutes ago, Dtret said:

Your car being Baltimore built is a good thing for possibly finding documentation. Apparently GM had a policy in place that stated no build sheets in cars and Flint is the only plant that had, to the best of our knowledge, 100 percent compliance. True or not true I’m not sure but no build sheets have ever been found in Flint cars. 

That’s interesting. Wonder why the others didn’t do the same. According to my VIN mine was built in Van Nuys plant 

[Rob Peters]

I have heard another story as to how build sheets ended up inside our cars.  

The main one I have heard is Build Sheets are exactly what they sound like, they identified everything that was supposed to go onto each car so when the cars were built the sheets were used to make sure each car ended the line built as ordered.

At the end of each shift the workers were required to police up their work area and were supposed to throw these build sheets that were laying around into trash bins and to reduce the amount of trash picking up there would be at the end of their shift the workers would just stuff them any place in the car that was handy.  This way they didn't have as much to clean up at the end of their shift.  This is one reason some cars we have found multiple build sheets and some of those build sheets ended up in cars that they didn't belong to.  It seems the Flint plant may have had more trash cans then the other plants.

This all seems logical but but what doesn't make sense that have been found in seat springs and also between seat foam and the outer material and sometimes behind bucket seat back panels.  Apparently these interior seats were built to order in each plant.  I would think each plant would have an instruction sheet to follow for each job and I would think that that process would have been the same in each and every plant so why would the Flint plant never have any build sheets hidden withing the seats.  

Oh to have a time machine and be able to go back in time to investigate these things and so many other things.

rob

[Dtret]

38 minutes ago, Korey said:

That’s interesting. Wonder why the others didn’t do the same. According to my VIN mine was built in Van Nuys plant 

Sorry you are correct. I seen the BL on the tag and automatically jumped to Baltimore. Apparently I didn’t think that one through. Another history lesson for Ron( lol), why did some California car have BL and some had L. ?????  

[Glen]

5 hours ago, Korey said:

That’s interesting. Wonder why the others didn’t do the same. According to my VIN mine was built in Van Nuys plant 

Mine was also.  Check those seat backs, especially if you think the seats are original to your car.  

[420ponies]

Interesting, I think my Monte is a Flint car, and I do have a sheet in the bottom rear seat. It's in poor shape ,so I can only take a photo of it. I know that If I try to wrangle it outta there, there won't be anything left of it. i do some investigating later today.

[Korey]

8 hours ago, Glen said:

Mine was also.  Check those seat backs, especially if you think the seats are original to your car.  

I’m pretty sure they are original. I’ll definitely be looking for sure 

[Scott S.]

16 hours ago, Dtret said:

Sorry you are correct. I seen the BL on the tag and automatically jumped to Baltimore. Apparently I didn’t think that one through. Another history lesson for Ron( lol), why did some California car have BL and some had L. ?????  

It's a "bilingual" thing..... I think.

"L" was for Long Beach, (the plant location) and "BL" was for Beach de la Long. Kind of like the label on a soup can.

It's a French thing.  

[Scott S.]

17 hours ago, Rob Peters said:

I have heard another story as to how build sheets ended up inside our cars.  

The main one I have heard is Build Sheets are exactly what they sound like, they identified everything that was supposed to go onto each car so when the cars were built the sheets were used to make sure each car ended the line built as ordered.

At the end of each shift the workers were required to police up their work area and were supposed to throw these build sheets that were laying around into trash bins and to reduce the amount of trash picking up there would be at the end of their shift the workers would just stuff them any place in the car that was handy.  This way they didn't have as much to clean up at the end of their shift.  This is one reason some cars we have found multiple build sheets and some of those build sheets ended up in cars that they didn't belong to.  It seems the Flint plant may have had more trash cans then the other plants.

This all seems logical but but what doesn't make sense that have been found in seat springs and also between seat foam and the outer material and sometimes behind bucket seat back panels.  Apparently these interior seats were built to order in each plant.  I would think each plant would have an instruction sheet to follow for each job and I would think that that process would have been the same in each and every plant so why would the Flint plant never have any build sheets hidden withing the seats.  

Oh to have a time machine and be able to go back in time to investigate these things and so many other things.

rob

I'm thinking that California emission laws restricted the amount of paper waste the plant could produce, so if the sheets left the state in the cars...... lower waste. 

[Marks71]

To the best of my knowledge, L stood for Los Angeles. The Van Nuys plant was located in the San Fernando Valley which became part of Los Angeles in 1915. There are numerous cities, Van Nuys  being one of them in the San Fernando Valley but they are all part of LA. LAPD, LA City Fire, and LA Department of Water and Power all service the San Fernando Valley. It can seem a little confusing. 

[Dtret]

9 hours ago, Marks71 said:

To the best of my knowledge, L stood for Los Angeles. The Van Nuys plant was located in the San Fernando Valley which became part of Los Angeles in 1915. There are numerous cities, Van Nuys  being one of them in the San Fernando Valley but they are all part of LA. LAPD, LA City Fire, and LA Department of Water and Power all service the San Fernando Valley. It can seem a little confusing. 

It is California, I wouldn’t expect anything less. I have family in San Francisco so I get some pretty good stories.