420ponies Posted July 30 Posted July 30 That depends on what kind of driving you're doing with it. I've had a Corvette style pan with a flapper in front of the oil pump (8qt pan), on the street('55 chevy pickup) , that also has a side baffle for road racing. If you're driving on the street, no need have a windage tray. No need for 6,500 rpm's. Now upwards of 7,500-9,000 rpm's ,definitely a tray. Road course 302 cu.in chevy., windage tray, 8 qt pan with baffle and trap door around oil pump. Shifting gears near the 10,000 range. average rpm (8,200-8,400),with only a 4speed. Now that's a class act! Vintage SCCA road course '68 Camaro. That pan you had on it seems to be your drag racing it? Quote
jbird72 Posted August 3 Author Posted August 3 On 7/30/2025 at 2:09 PM, Scott S. said: Just a thought..... If you're running those type of RPM's, you might want to consider a wingage tray while you've got the pan off. Well now had to replace springs and valves..gettin there tho Quote
jbird72 Posted August 3 Author Posted August 3 On 7/30/2025 at 6:41 PM, 420ponies said: That depends on what kind of driving you're doing with it. I've had a Corvette style pan with a flapper in front of the oil pump (8qt pan), on the street('55 chevy pickup) , that also has a side baffle for road racing. If you're driving on the street, no need have a windage tray. No need for 6,500 rpm's. Now upwards of 7,500-9,000 rpm's ,definitely a tray. Road course 302 cu.in chevy., windage tray, 8 qt pan with baffle and trap door around oil pump. Shifting gears near the 10,000 range. average rpm (8,200-8,400),with only a 4speed. Now that's a class act! Vintage SCCA road course '68 Camaro. That pan you had on it seems to be your drag racing it? Not really. Just figured as long as motors out and now compleately different. A couple bucks more do it now. Never know in future ynow..i dont want to do this again. This all started with a carb change and simple timing prolly wont shift over 6200 just nice to know i could🤪 1 Quote
Scott S. Posted August 3 Posted August 3 Similar theory with my 200r4. It's built to take 750-800 hp, but I'm only running around 350 horses. But you never know. Quote
jbird72 Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 Almost done decided to paint intake black im thinkin. That bare cast is hard to keep new lookin ..should be on dyno by weekend! 1 Quote
420ponies Posted August 13 Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, jbird72 said: Almost done decided to paint intake black im thinkin. That bare cast is hard to keep new lookin ..should be on dyno by weekend! Man, What size is that harmonic balancer? Looking good! Let's make some torque! 1 Quote
jbird72 Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 59 minutes ago, 420ponies said: Man, What size is that harmonic balancer? Looking good! Let's make some torque! Its for a sbc 1st gen. Its like a hi po one i guess same one as chevelle or vette same year the old one was chewed up might had somethin to do with bent crank. 8 inch Quote
Scott S. Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Good thing the Monte Carlo hood is as long as it is. Quote
jbird72 Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 15 minutes ago, Scott S. said: Good thing the Monte Carlo hood is as long as it is. Lol. Were just gonna break in dyno be tommorow. Had too many sodas...ynow..ran out of time. Soo ill post tommorow. Numbers 1 Quote
jbird72 Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 Just now, jbird72 said: Lol. Were just gonna break in dyno be tommorow. Had too many sodas...ynow..ran out of time. Soo ill post tommorow. Numbers Meant dyno tommorow 1 Quote
jbird72 Posted August 15 Author Posted August 15 (edited) Ok scott so maybe is a cursed block. Warming it up doin break in on dyno. 3 times of course all three inbetween and waiting for motor goto cold then warm up. Prolly 6ish hours. Motor shows decent power at 3900 rpm thats all weve done so far started at 354 hp and 418 tq and by 3rd run 3900 still is now at 380 and 438 tq. Should be a decent motor timing at 35 right now carb still not adjusted ..so should be better than 355. But heres the cursed block deal..we soaked and cleaned out the block of course before build lots of rust came out turns out that build up was sealing 2 small pin holes. So the water jacket is leaking fml...still movin on tommorow should be broken in enough to see what she does...proper timing...carb..maybe cam..adjustment. so thinkin can weld or use that block putty [censored] and do all the bottom if doesnt work gonna have to get new block. Could of had a bbc for money wouldnt of been a built one so well see Edited August 15 by jbird72 1 1 Quote
jbird72 Posted August 23 Author Posted August 23 Here we go. Got er dialed in. Pretty happy again flat tappet cam makin great power on pump gas according to sheet runnin rich but she wants more fuel. Weird 2 Quote
Scott S. Posted August 23 Posted August 23 More fuel, or more air ??? Might think about a higher CFM carb. Quote
jbird72 Posted August 23 Author Posted August 23 2 hours ago, Scott S. said: More fuel, or more air ??? Might think about a higher CFM carb. Its 750 dp...i put 850 qf for giggles my buddies got like 7 more hp.and 8 ish lbs tq more. Nothin real noticable in car. So gonna stay with 750 i think. It was also in a controlled environment with humidity. So on a cooler day, it might not matter 1 Quote
420ponies Posted August 23 Posted August 23 You run what you have on the street. They always do more on the dyno. It's the street that matters. Looks good to me running rich as you say, nothing wrong about that. Nice SBC!! Quote
jbird72 Posted August 23 Author Posted August 23 Yeah, I think I'm gonna stop fighting for one more horsepower. I think we're good if I go to the roller cam. It's gonna cost an extra 1000 bucks. I'm gonna have to take it apart and I think I'm okay with what I got. You know, it's a great street motor and at the strip, it might be kind of fun, just to kind of see what it will do 1 Quote
Scott S. Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Years ago I had a friend with a similar obsession to adding horsepower. He finally decided the easiest route to go was to have multiple engines. It was a '71 Mach 1, and for daily driving he had a 351 Cleveland in it. But come Friday night, you could always find him in his Dad's shop, swapping in the Boss 429 for the weekend. Come Sunday evening, he simply reversed the swap for the weekly driving. The measures some guys will go to..... 2 Quote
jbird72 Posted August 24 Author Posted August 24 Im done. Pretty happy with it out of car so far respectful with a flat tappet and iron heads...the 3500 stall and 373 rear should pair nicely 2 Quote
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