Rob Peters
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I agree with almost everything Sam said with the exception of the timing. My car is a late 70 out of the Baltimore plant and it has the full Halo. My car was produced in June/July 70 timeframe. The time a particular plant switched from the full halo, with the paint visible between the trim and the windshield, had more to do with when they were running out of the full halo trim and had received their trim for the 71 model year.
The only other point of clarification not mentioned in Sam's post is that the same "Vinyl Top" trim was used on the two tone painted cars to separate the two colors.
Rob
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Just a few notes.
My car has a fully functional Fiber Optic Light Monitoring System. Dave was right about it being a 70 option only and was not offered on the 71/72.
On mine, for the front, the Green ones are for the headlights and the clear/white ones are for the turn signals. Since the turn signal bulbs are amber, the white/clear ones glow amber when they are on.
I am not sure if the plug that goes into the headlight is a special plug or not but the fiber optic cable for the headlights plugs directly into the middle of the wiring plug which connects to the headlight bulb. On the back of each bulb there is a little tit that sticks out from the bulb lamp moulding and this comes in contact with that little tit.
For all of the other light fixtures, the front turn signal, license plate lamp and the rear lamps the housing are all special housing with a hole in them where the fiber optic, surrounded by a rubber grommet plugs in, sealing the hole.
rob
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Kevin,
I think I would do the clear coat treatment of some kind. I have a feeling they had some kind of protection on them when they were new and it may have been clear coated in some what. I would try different clear coat finishes in an area it dosen't show much and see how it looks and make my decision from that. I am sure others have actually done something to restore theirs and maybe they will speak up.
Rob
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I have had the NOS metal ones on my car since I bought it in 2000 and I have had no problems with them. What I can say is without them the edge of my door would be toast by now. The garage I have my car stored in is very tight and I almost always have to bump the door edge against the wall just to get into or out of the car and I can guarantee there would be no paint on the dorr edges by now without them.
Rob
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I got a set off of ebay.
Rob
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I can't reply to the plugs but the color of the splatter paint in the trunk is different depending upon the year. I think the 70 was the aqua and the 71/72 was black. I am not positive on that but I think that is true.
Rob
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Well, I just spoke to John "Pop" Holden, the man that opened
Community Chevrolet where my car was sold. Very nice guy.
I asked him if he might have any pictures of the dealership from
1970 and he says "I sure do". Not only that, they only sold a few
SS454's and they took pictures of them all. He might have a pic
of my car on the lot or with the original owner or both
Hey Jake,
If that is the case it could be something that nobody else in the club could lay claim to. What a great story and how excited are you about this possibility... I hope it comes true but I'm sure you won't let us know..... or will you.
Rob
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It is a steel building on the east side of 17 on the Jacksonville
side of town. There is a fence around the property possibly.
That is all I have been able to nail down so far.
The SS I have mentioned for sale in the SS forum is located in Jacksonville, NC so if anyone is in the area and call look at it for any interested member let us know.
Rob
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Bob,
To the best of my knowledge, the SS was the only FGMC that had exhaust tips and they were rectangular/oval in shape... I should say rectangular with rounded corners because they were neither rectangular or oval...
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Good Job Aaron. NOw all we need is for someone to post a picture of where the 72 horn mounts
Rob
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I will have to look at mine and post how mine run. I remember putting holes in my new inner fenders in the same place as my old ones. My extensions are the origional.
Rob
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Ian or Allan,
This looks like something we should place into the "Resources"/"Technical Information" area of the website.
Rob
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Jim,
From Pittsburgh, I have driven mine to:
Greensburg (Joint meet)
Cleveland (NMCOA meet)
Carlisle (FGMCC Eastern Meet)
Indy (FGMCC Eastern Meet)
Bristol Tenn, (FGMCC Eastern Meet)
Commerace Ga (FGMCC Eastern Meet).
I have loved every trip but since it is a low mileage car (46,000 orig miles) I hate to put the miles on her.
Rob
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Originally Posted By: Rob PetersOriginally Posted By: Jim BoczarNice pictures Capri! It was great to finally meet you and the family! Also nice to meet Jared and the other Carl Hanson and to see the Long Island gang again - Steve, Al, Dan and Jim along with Leo, Andreas and everyone else. I watched the odometer turn 57,000 miles around Allentown and averaged 14.5 miles per gallon. Made it home to CT. around 9pm. I had a great time and thanks to everyone!
Jim,
I didn't realize you had driven to the meet in your car. If so, how many miles was it one way... I hope we didn't give the Longest Disatance Driven award to the wrong person.
Rob
On Jim's FGMCC window paper it said 500, he was second to my 575. Good to see an SS 454 get driven 500 miles and not trailered!!
Jared
Jared,
If there are two people that are close, as you and Jim were, we would have used a mapping program on the computer and mapped it out from door to door to see for sure and to be totally fair. I had no idea Jim had driven his car or I would have done that. Driving a 454 that far had to cost a bundle. I know that Greg and Capri were saying that they got better mileage in their truck, towing their 454, than they were getting in the car the short distance they drove it prior to going back to get it on the trailer.
Rob
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Kevin may really be onto something here with them being quieter... That is one posibility I hadnot even thought about.
Rob
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Nice pictures Capri! It was great to finally meet you and the family! Also nice to meet Jared and the other Carl Hanson and to see the Long Island gang again - Steve, Al, Dan and Jim along with Leo, Andreas and everyone else. I watched the odometer turn 57,000 miles around Allentown and averaged 14.5 miles per gallon. Made it home to CT. around 9pm. I had a great time and thanks to everyone!
Jim,
I didn't realize you had driven to the meet in your car. If so, how many miles was it one way... I hope we didn't give the Longest Disatance Driven award to the wrong person.
Rob
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I really don't think it was a cost issue. they didn't seem to skimp on the Monte Carlo, espically the first few years. In the early years, the Monte was billed by Chevrolet as the Gentlemans Luxury Coupe. When they are billing something as luxury I don't think they would skimp on something like the inner felder wells.
Look at it this way. The Chevelle already had an inner fender well which would work on our cars and rather than spend the money to "reinvent the wheelwell" (excuse the pun) to save money why wouldn't they have just used the one already available and being used on the chevelle. Also, if it was mostly the same thing, and the production of the chevelle was much greater than the Monte Carlo it would have been more of a savings for them to use the plastic on the chevelle than on the Monte.
I suspect they may have been trying to save on weight. With the long front end on the Monte and that heavy hood I think they felt the plastic would be lighter and and with the cushy ride these Monte's had an increas in weight may mean a harder ride.
I also suspect the after market steel inner wells are not as heavy as the original ones they had on the Chevelle.
Of course that is just my opnion.
Rob
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I would like to thank Capri and Scott for assisting me in getting door prizes for the Eastern Meet. We had many different companies and individuals donating items for door prizes.
Below is a listing of those who contributed and helped make this event a success. I wanted to recognize these companies and request you consider them when purchasing your parts and supplies for your cars.
DFW Hilton (Grand Prize Drawing for 2 free nights at any Hilton in the continental US)
FatMat Sound Control (multiple gift certificates)
FGMCC (multiple items)
Grassi Distributing (multiple items)
Harmon's Parts (multiple items)
Leo Konik (multiple items)
Lutty's Chevy Warehouse (multiple items)
Mac Ink (multiple items)
Muscle Cars Only (multiple items)
Origional Parts Group (multiple items)
Rob Peters (multiple items)
Shiny Hiney
Summit Racing Equipment (multiple items)
The Parts Place (multiple items)
"THIS-IZ-IT" J&D Chemical (multiple items)
thanks
Rob
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Congrats again people, you deserved it...
Where are the pictures I took of them...or are they so bad you don't want to post them...I never said I knew how to work a camera when you handed it to me...
Bill
Bill,
I will post them as soon as I can. They will also be in the newsletter. Thank you so much for shooting them for me. I will tell you the truth, I have not even had a chance to look at them because I have been so busy since I got home. Hopefully I will get some time to transfer them to my computer this weekend.
Rob
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Congrats to one and all! Way to go FGMCC! Sorry I missed it. I was hoping to have the George Lines award again. Speaking of that does anyone know what the actual criteria is for winning that award?
I guess the criteria is in the eye of the person judging. This year at the Eastern Meet we did peer judging so it was our members who decided it.
Rob
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Here is a listing of the First Generation Monte Carlo Club Eastern Meet and NMCOA Award Winners.
FGMCC AWARDS
Best Paint Rick Miller (montecrazy1971)
George Lines Best Modified Mark Patrone (6769)
Best Non Restored Rob Peters
Best Engine Compartment Scott Stephens (footballubet)
Longest Distance Driven Jared Richey
Best Interior Capri Blasco
Best Stock-Restored Stan Kulikowski (iceman)
President’s Choice Dave Reem (72MC)
FGMCC Dedication Award Andreas Kwetkus
Hard Luck Art Petridis (art)
Member’s Overall Favorite (All Years of Monte Carlo) Jim Fontana (1967vettecoupe)
People’s Choice (Selected by NMCOA Member’s) Steve Levanti
Directors Choice Dennis Braunbaugh
Members Choice Jared Richey
Best Dressed in Early 70’s Clothes Jack and Judy Cooper (Jack)
2 Nights Free at any Hilton Hotel Chad Hefflinger (heff)
NMCOA AWARDS TO OUR GROUP
GOLD CLASS WINNERS
Jim Fontana
Mark Patrone
Dave Brewer (427monte)
Class Winners other than Gold Class
Class 1A
Steve Levanti (71) (monteman1971)
Michael Matney (71)
Mark Wise (72)
Class 1B
Capri Blasco (71)
James Boczar (70)
Dwight Cornell (71) (71 carlo)
Ken Foutz (71) (71 SS Ken)
Stan Kulikowski (70)
Dave Reem (72)
Jared Richey (70)
Scott Stephens (71)
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From what I understand, none of the ones produced today are quite the same as origional. I think the seam on each side is a couple inches too far toward the center. I think when the reproductions are installed the seam between the trunk and rear window are about an inch or two away from the body seam near the corner of the window and I think the origional ones would run pretty close if not right on that seam..
Rob
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Capri,
If you go to most hardware stores you can find White Duct Tape... Just tear off a couple strips and place them over your emblems and rub the duct tape in real well to form into the numbers.... Then take an exacto blade and just cut off anything not recessed... Duct tape is a wonderfull tool, just ask Kevin
Rob
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I think you're right Sam, good eye
whys my 70 monte vinyl top have 2 trim strips?
in Restorers - Archive
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Sorry Sammy, it was early and I was in a hurry, you are right.
Rob