V8Freak Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 So putting my car together, was originally a bench with automatic. It is now buckets and console with 4spd manual. I have learned that the console on the automatic donor car mounted to the gear shifter, I see in the assembly manual that for a manual car there is a special bracket for it to bolt to towards the front. Could anyone tell me if you can buy this part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leghome Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I bought teh rear bracket form the parts place but do not know where the front bracket can be found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealRed70 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 The only bracket that is not part of the plastic console base is for the rear console compartment. This is a steel bracket that gets welded to the trans hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8Freak Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 There's also another fairly big bracket at the front according to the assembly manual. Looks like it bolts to the hump. In the automatic picture it doesn't have it because it looks like it bolts/screws to the horse shoe gear shifter assembly but since 4 spd doesn't have that I guess this bracket is what replaces it. My console is from an auto so the bracket was not there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8Freak Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 I have a picture but having trouble trying to post it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCfan Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 If you are converting from a bench seat with automatic to a bucket seat/console with 4-speed you will first need to weld in a rear console mounting bracket which is available from the Parts Place Inc as p/n CP5103C for $24.  If you are looking at page 529 of the GM Assembly Manual, the "bracket" you are referring to is probably either the base of the horseshoe shifter for an automatic or the partial image of a 4-speed shifter but not an alternate bracket.  I have a factory 4-speed with console and there is only the rear bracket. The front mounts with sheet metal screws directly to the transmission tunnel and there is no middle mount as there is on the automatic horseshoe shifter (see photos below).  Bottom line: After locating and welding in the rear console bracket, you can install your console using just the two front and two rear screws.   Here you can see the rear bracket and the front two mounting screw holes way up on the transmission tunnel:   One of the two front mounting screws is showing where the two front mounting holes are located.   Here is a close-up of the rear mounting bracket you need to buy and weld onto the driveshaft tunnel.  The "bracket assembly" you see in the Assembly Manual is actually the base of the automatic horseshoe shifter.  You can see the middle console mounting holes in the riser pad just in front of the horseshoe shifter.  You won't use those middle holes to mount your console with a 4-speed.  Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I recently installed console in my 4 speed. There are only two places it is mounted. Four hex head drill screws I believe they are #12x3/4 or 1"long or #14 x 3/4 or 1" long. Two go inside console door to the bracket in the rear and two are at front of the console. I think I used the 1" long screws. John S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8Freak Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thank you sir! Yes I have welded the rear bracket in. And yes I was I guess referring to the middle piece, in the assembly manual in shows the gear shifter in the automatic section but in the manual section it still seems to show some sort of bracket for the centre to take the automatic shifters place I'll see if I can figure out how to post a picture tonight but I'm good with not needing to worry about it haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCfan Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I love the look of your fresh big block and the mid-length headers required for a BBC with 4-speed. Â Are those headers Patroit 8012 or 8013 per chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8Freak Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 If your talking about mine they are Hedman hedders, they were the 4th set I ordered, I tried long but hit crossmember and a few others had very poorly made flanges. Hedman had a nice ceramic shorty for a bbc and that's what I went with very good brand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealRed70 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Do you mean this? Â http://www.ebay.com/itm/68-69-70-71-72-Chevelle-El-Camino-4-speed-Hump-WC-/371831525582?hash=item5692e2d0ce:m:mCvjgI_mIgC3mh0Zq2gpaHw&vxp=mtr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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V8Freak Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 No it's im between that and the back bracket I'm going to try and post a picture tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8Freak Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 the pen is pointing at the bracket  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71 MONTE 4 YA Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 That's the shifter itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealRed70 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I agree, that is an automatic shifter bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCfan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 That's the shifter itself  I agree, that is an automatic shifter bracket.  Look closely at that drawing compared to the shape of the base plate of the automatic horseshoe shifter and you can see they are very similar.  The drawing calls that part a "bracket assembly" because the actual mounting location for the middle two holes of a console is on a small riser bracket welded to the base plate of the shifter (as seen in the photo below).  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8Freak Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Problem is in the manual it shows actual shifter in automatic section and just this bracket in the manual section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealRed70 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 On that page out of the manual read what it says where the arrows point to the bracket. Those are automatic transmission codes. Nest to the manual shifter are the manual transmission codes. that is a dual purpose diagram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8Freak Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 Ok you guys seem right sorry for the questions just wanted to be 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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