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I can attest to the great information on the Mad Electrical website. I ended up buying most of the products that Mark offers on that site - the "new system", a few relay kits, HEI kit, the starter kit, the alternator kit, terminals, etc. etc...he should offer me stock for as much as I have bought from him over the years. Anyway, I ended up completely redoing my underhood wiring with his products, and the difference is readily apparent. No more weak spark, no dim lights, easy access (via the junction blocks) for wiring, and none of the previous issues exist any more. I think what is the best part is the underhood junction blocks. I ended up putting two under the hood - one over by the windshield wiper motor, and one out front by the original buss bar. Unfortunately, Mark no longer sells those individually, but I did find a great source for them in boneyards - Chevy vans - or if you want a dual block, trucks have them.

Hi... When I installed the tach dash in my 70, I had the "tachman" convert the little factory amp gauge to a volt gauge. It made the wiring much easier, and eliminates worrying about running all of the power through the original amp gauge. At the time, he also offered to convert an amp gauge to an oil pressure gauge. Now, I see that he can also convert the large fuel gauge pod to an oil pressure gauge as well. Here is his website - www.tachman.com. Let me know if you want to see what my volt gauge looks like in place of the amp gauge. Realizing that he could not also provide me an oil pressure gauge, as I opted for the volt gauge, I plumbed in a separate oil pressure gauge, which is located under the dash by the ashtray. Alternatively, if you have a console, you could install gauges on/above it as well.

Hi... That is a pretty loaded question...it all depends upon several things... The short answer is - NO, but it depends! In order to better help you...can you give us more specifics? Like...is/was this car a factory automatic transmission? If so...auto on the column or floor? If the car is a factory manual transmission...is/was it a 3 speed or 4 speed? What front seats are/were in the car? Basically, we need to know what you have now, and what you plan on doing. Such as...factory bench seat, TH350 auto on the column, converting to a bucket seat, console, 4 speed Muncie car. I could write for hours giving you all the different scenarios...but it would be easier if you could just give me more information based on what you have and what you are going to do...then I can help you out. The short answer is this: if you want to put a correct factory console in a 4 speed car...you will have to have a certain shifter "handle". But...like I said, it all depends upon certain other items...like if you are also going to use the correct "console floor tunnel" or not. If not, and you are just going to cut a "hole" in the floor...then you can get away with many different shifter "handles" as well as different shifters themselves. At that point, your only concern would be to have a shifter "handle" that clears the top plate of the console itself. Let us know more information, then we can better help you out.

Geez...alright...one more time...and I am done... Here you go...I just stumbled across this one...as I have been looking off and on for several years for a good site that details the "super" T10's...here it is... Super T10 Now...I hope that this one REALLY helps you out!

OK...I just found another post that has very similar information... 10 ID The link that they say to go to is busted...but it looks like you might have a Super T10 out of a 80's F body? Hope this helps you out.

Hi James... That is most definitely a Borg Warner transmission... However, I am having a hard time helping you out with the information that you have posted. There should be more numbers on the tranny as well as on the tailshaft. Can you try and find more numbers? In the meantime...here is a link to help you out... Ratios Also, I found this on another website...this only covers the orignal T-10's...not the later "supers"... cast iron (1957-61) 3772339 T10-1B aluminum (1961-62) 3782212 T10-1C aluminum (1963) 3792694 T10D-1 Based on the numbers that you did post...it looks like maybe a 1964 or a 1974 year? Or...the 1 in the first number could be for 1961? The rest of the top number looks like a partial VIN? Are you sure about the "F" "p" and "C"? Also...somewhere on the tranny...it should list something like: T10-1C or something very similar... Do you happen to have a "Chevy by the Numbers" book? I have one...but it is for 1970-1975. I know that the author makes them also for 55-59, 60-64, 65-69. How about taking some pictures for us? This is the best that I can do at this point. Maybe somebody that has an early GM car can help you out?

Hi... Here is some links that should help you out... Bellhousing 101 Although the pictures no longer show on the first part of the thread, the original poster added them back on the later pages of the thread. Also...there are several posts on the Chevelle site about the use of truck bellhousings in a car...it is NOT recommended unless you buy a special part... Truck bell NO NO Special Part If you have any more questions, and/or need some pictures of a 4 speed setup for reference, let me know, and I will gladly help you out.

Hey all... What about the 3 speed manual cars? I have only ever seen one 3 speed manual Monte in my life...it is a 70 with a bench seat and it has the shifter up on the steering column (3 on the tree). Has anybody ever seen... -) 3 speed manual with shifter on the floor? If so...what front seat did it have? How about a console? I think we all have discussed this in a different post...but if such a car exists...I am assuming the non-console car would get the 4 speed bench floor tunnel and the square shift boot. However...what if the 3 speed manual car had a console? I have NEVER seen a 68-72 Monte/Chevelle/El Camino console with a 3 speed shift pattern in it? Has anybody? It APPEARS that ALL 3 speed manual Monte's had the shifter ONLY on the steering column from the factory? Is this correct? Regarding the buckets and console...you could get them in a variety of configurations like Rich mentioned. Hope this helps out.

Yes...I was wondering if anybody was going to catch that...it is from their first movie...Up in Smoke...it is the scene where they are coming back to the U.S. from Mexico and the border guard is asking them how long they have been in Mexico. Regarding Corpus Christi...I would much rather be there where I could drive my cars year round instead of this ice box here...where the driving season is 4 months if you are lucky. Also, the roads here are now "salted" with the bad stuff...just like they do in the Midwest...not that I drive the car during those months...but my other cars take a beating for it! Also, I don't mind the heat and/or humidity...when I was in the Marine Corps...I was stationed on the island of Okinawa and was also in the Philippines, and nothing here in the U.S. can compare...so yea...I can take it. At least in a warmer climate...I can do things with the car. Here...it sits in the garage from October to April and barely moves during those months. Usually, about the time that I put insurance back on it in May...there always seems to be a week or two of a freak snowstorm...so like I said...the driving season is 4 months if you are lucky. Back to subject... Kenny...the best advice that I can give you is to decide which carburetor you want to deal with and go buy a book or two on it. Last year at this time, I had purchased a brand new Holley Avenger 770 from a fellow club member...and I did not know ANYTHING about it. Anyway, I had decided that not knowing anything about Holley's my whole life...it was time to do something about that. So...I ordered 3 specific books on the Holley and 2 other books that covered engines/induction in general. I put the 770 on the car late last year and proceeded to slowly learn/tune it while it was on the car. That carburetor was on the car last summer when we drove it to the Western Meet and ended up driving more than 2,000 miles during our vacation. Anyway...I now am no longer intimidated by it. In the meantime, I also bought some kits for the Holley so that I have full flexibility with tuning it. Keep in mind - you can do this with any brand/type of carburetor that is out there - YOU can tune any Holley, Edelbrock, Predator, Rochester, etc. if you take a little time to learn it. As of now, I still have a little more to learn, but I am now to the point that I am looking into purchasing a wideband system so that I can further tune this car. Also...what a few others have already said...it might not be worth your time to "tune" the car for this "cold" spell until you feel more comfortable with it. Also...like already mentioned...do only ONE change at a time. Ask me how I know this...I got too "excited" a few times...and the car ran worse because I tried to 2nd guess that Holley! Regarding your "cold" spell...how long is it cold where you live? A month, a few weeks, what? Back to my original point...you might want to invest some time and learn about the carburetor first, then you can confidently tune it to your heart's content. Hope this helps you out.

Cold? Are you for real...? Come spend a week, or a day, or a weekday with us...right now it is a warm 35*F...the warmest that it has been in like 3 weeks... The other day...the warmest that it got to was -13...and the low was -21! Also...I did have to start the 70 the other day...I had to move it out of the garage so that we could get the Christmas stuff out of the rafters...so I had to back the car out of the garage onto the concrete pad when it was -5 and a foot of snow on the ground! Car started right up after not being started/driven since late October! Anyway...Kenny...you would think that your car would run BETTER in cooler weather? As long as your car's coolant is up to a "normal" operating temperature, it should run real good in the "cold" weather... Bring it up here to Montana...we can test it up here...by spinning some donuts on the snow/ice in the parking lots... Cold...yea...I wish we were in my dream place right now...Corpus Christi, Texas...I would be working on the Monte's right now...instead, we have to drive our winter car's...89 Ford Probe GT's...little 4 bangers with turbo's...which are actually quite fast! Cold! Funny funny! Stay warm!

Ha Ha...for some reason...that statement is funny! I know...I probably just "opened an account" with you...but it was worth it! Are you OK after your encounter with this tool? You might need to use your "buffer" now, eh?

Another opinion to help you out... In August, me and Lisa put over 2000 miles on the 70 during the Western meet and the week afterwards. We did a mix of city and interstate driving throughout Oregon, Washington, and Montana. The 70 has 3.73 gears in it with a M22 4 speed. The only consideration is interstate driving - I don't drive the 70 as fast as I do the 73, which has 2.73 gears. As a result, I like to keep it (the 70) around 65 or so. I have Radial T/A's on all 4 corners...235/70/15's. Here is what I came up with during the trip, both on the GPS and my speedo/tach gauges... 60 MPH...2800 RPM 70 MPH...3300 RPM So, yes, on the open interstate, I keep it MOSTLY under 70...however...like Davey says...it is the ride/drive that I truly enjoy when in this car. Also, I wanted this car to be a streetlight screamer, so that is why I went with the 3.73's. Although with the dead first gear in the M22, I really should have went with 4.10's or higher. Eventually, I am going to buy a Gear Vendor's overdrive, so I will be able to enjoy the equivalent of a 2.91 in 4th over after it is installed. Hope this helps "calm" you down regarding the 3.73's...

Jake... Another option...POR15 has a steering wheel restoration kit. Me and Lisa are in the process of restoring the "normal" wheel on a 70. We did not get it done before the show...so I still have a 71 wheel on the car. So far...though...the POR15 kit has been great...we are about ready to prime then paint it. Here is a linky for you... POR15 Kit Not cheap...but has more than enough to do what you need. Let me know if you would like to see a few pictures...as our wheel was a basket case when we started, and now, it is starting to look good again. Right now, it is black with the "white" stuff all over where we filled in the cracks. Hope this helps. Rodney

Hi all... For those of you with vinyl tops... -) What do you use to clean it? -) What do you use to keep it protected and/or shiny? I have done a quick research of the web...and have come up with a whole bunch of "goodies" to supposedly keep the roof clean/shiny... Armor all, Pledge, shoe shine, baby oil, Megauiars, Mothers, you name it...etc... Well...I had the new black vinyl top put on the 70 last year, literally the day before the Western Meet...and I would like to have it kept clean and shiny...as we are going to DRIVE the car to Oregon, and I wanted to protect it before we leave next week. Anybody have any suggestions for me? Crazy Davey...when we were in Las Vegas with you, I noticed that the black vinyl on your NOW (WOW!) 10.43 Chevelle is PERFECT! I thought that I had mentioned that to you and asked you what you had done...but for the life of me...I can not remember what you had told me? Thanks all!

Huh... Art...don't remember his last name...he was at last year's meet with a nice, stock, red 70... Does anybody know if he is going to make it? Is everything OK with him? He was such a nice person to have around...

Hi all... I have seen a few mentions of this topic scattered around in the "general" post for this Western meet, so I thought that I would make a specific post for it... Does anybody have a "rulebook" for this event? I have several questions regarding this event...like... -) Helmet required? What kind of helmet? -) Type of tires required? -) Passengers allowed in car during race? Helmet for them? -) Radiator overflow jug required? -) Battery tray requirements? -) Bellhousing requirements? At one point, I was reading the rulebooks for both Fontana and Las Vegas. The rules seem to be based on your elapsed time. One "rule" that confused me was the radiator overflow requirement...I don't think 1stGen's came with one did they? When I bought my 70, it had one installed, but I took it out...do I need to bring it along? We are driving the car, which has BF Goodrich Radial T/A's on it...should I buy two "special" rear drag type tires? Helmets...should I buy one for me and for a passenger? Can passengers ride along during the race? Battery...I have the normal battery tray for my 70, but the lower, hidden, smaller piece is "busted"...should I fabricate a metal brace to address this. I mean...the battery is secure to the actual battery tray...but the battery tray is not "braced" as good as it should be? Also, my car is a manual transmission...do I need something above and beyond the normal GM type bellhousing? I am still debating on whether I SHOULD participate or not. I really WANT to...but...being that we are driving the car 600 miles to get to the car show...then driving all over the Western U.S. the following week...I am also taking that into consideration. The parents are bringing the motorhome, so I can stow a bunch of goodies in it, but, if I break the car... Thoughts, advice, concerns...all of you that plan on participating...what are you doing for a "check list"? Thanks all...

Hi all... My parents were able to reserve both Friday and Saturday night at the Memaloose State Park campground. I guess this park is 11 miles west of The Dalles, so it is relatively close. We plan on being in the area on Friday afternoon...hopefully earlier rather than later... If anybody needs help with anything...feel free to contact us! See you soon!

Oh NO...I gotta put up with "Crazy Davey" again! Been there...done that! Even got the T-SHIRT! But - no hat! We had our fill of him back in April when we met him in Vegas! Oh...and speaking of "crazy"...you must be living up to your name...because you are absolutely insane if you think that you need any "TIPS" on how to make your cars look nicer! After seeing the Chevelle in person...if the Monte looks anything like it...we will be taking advice and tips from YOU! Aaron...we are not on the list...as the parents are bringing the motor home, so me and Lisa will be staying with them. My Mom is looking into which campground to park at...as there are about 3 good choices on the Oregon side...and Maryhill on the Washington side. It appears that none of them are in The Dalles, but they are all within 25 miles or so of the actual city. We plan on leaving on Thursday, hopefully late morning...so Vaughn...you will probably already be out of Spokane before we get there. We do plan on taking the same route as you from Spokane on (I-90/395/etc), but you will most likely be in The Dalles when we are just getting to Spokane? In our case, thanks to the parents, we will leave Helena, and drive until we are tired, then pull over and sleep wherever for the night. Then wake up on Friday morning and I wanted to make sure that we are there by mid afternoon...so we will hopefully be there by 3:00 PM or so. Last year, I missed the cruise, so this year I want to make sure that I do NOT miss the cruise!

YEAH... 4 months from now...TODAY!!!

Vaughn... There are a few different routes that I am thinking of taking... -) 12 west to I-90, then I-90 west to Missoula, MT, then 12 west to 730, then 730 to I-84 via I-82 (587 miles, 13:10) -) 12 west to I-90, then I-90 west to Ritzville, WA, then 395 down to I-84 (579 miles, 9:45) One way is the scenic route, and the other way is the quick route...we might take one way going over, and take the other way going back... Regardless, it is going to be awesome being able to drive the Monte Carlo to the show. I just wish that I could get that Gear Vendors overdrive unit that I have been wanting since day one for the M22...it would be SO nice to have the M22 plus an overdrive for it! Plus it would be fun to have the GV unit for the dragstrip! All for now...

Hi all... Vaughn... Yeah...I knew it...I figured I was going to be the computer geek. That is fine with me...that way...you all can do burnouts again...live on the Internet...like last year! I still wish you would bring your Copper 71SS...though...as that is my all time favorite color combination. Hey...I know what...me and Lisa can drive up to Canada...and I will gladly donate my "time" and drive your Copper car, and Lisa can drive my 70 and you can drive your black SS, and we all can drive together to the meet...or you can just drive it down to Helena, and we can go from there! I should have bought the one that I had a chance to buy back in 2000...it was a real Canadian car...and had full documentation! I still slap myself over that one...last I heard...it went from the state of Washington (Kelso) to Rhode Island. I wonder if the current owner is a club member? I don't think so...as I don't know of any other Classic Copper 71SS454's that are a Canadian car with all of the documentation that that car did have at the time! Maybe some East Coast members can chime in and let me know if they know about this car? Regarding Dan in Idaho...he had emailed me last year right before the Polson event. I still have his phone number in that email. I remember him well...his car is white with a black top just like mine...except his is a 72. Anyway...he is a very nice guy and I was glad to have spent some time with him! If somebody needs to get a hold of him, I can give him a call and see if it is OK to give his number out...as I don't like giving out peoples' numbers without their permission first. Wow...25+ people going to this years show! Excellent! I have a feeling that we will be the MOST represented Chevy model for this event! That would be awesome...as, to this day, I hardly EVER see even ONE FGMC in car shows here in Montana! Last year was the first time in my life that I saw that many Monte Carlo's together in the state of Montana - and that was only 8 cars! All for now...

Hi all... I just was thinking...it has been over 4 months since the official 2009 Western Meet...and was wondering...is the main website ever going to be updated with information and pictures from the meet in Polson? I did post some photos on various threads right after the meet...but I thought that...by now...somebody would do a write-up and photos on the main website like what was done for previous meets and previous years. Who usually does this stuff? Does anybody need help with remembering the events, times, dates, etc.? I can help to the best of my ability. However, I was not there for the Friday night stuff, nor was I there later on Sunday afternoon; but I will gladly help if it is needed. Also, the photos that I did post months ago...I put those up on a "temporary" space...so they might accidentally be deleted (beyond my control) some day...and I would hate to have "dead pictures" scattered across threads. So...if a moderator could help me "permanently" embed the pictures...that would be great also. Let me know if I can help anybody with this. Happy Holidays to all! Rodney

Hi all... Any chance to ride/drive in another 1stGen makes my day - no matter the condition! I have been around 1stGen's since I was about 8 years old...think back to...circa 1978! It looks like we will have a lot more people this year...and some of you that have highly modded engines will have to teach me the "ropes", as I have never been on an "official" drag track. Plus...with me having an M22 four speed with that dead 1st gear (2.20) and a 3.73 posi rear...you guys with the automatics will most likely nail me bad right out of the "gate"! I just want to be able to try it out and see how I do. Hopefully a few other 4 speed cars will be there as well...to somewhat even out the odds for me. Hey Vaughn...thanks for the nice comments...I had forgotten about that night when we all drove out to dinner together in the cars. I actually felt pretty embarrassed getting on it...I was thinking...yea right fool...here is David Mau sitting in the passenger seat of my car that has a little 350 and he has a 70 SS454...like I am gonna impress him with my measly "250 hp"! Plus to boot...I remember that I had that ^$^$#$#$% carburetor on it last summer...that damn thing would not idle at all! Since then though, I have a new 770 and also a 670 Holley Avenger that I have been experimenting with...so...hopefully I will have the right carburetor combination on the car for the 2010 meet. In the meantime, I need to fix the windshield like I had done the back window right before the 2009 meet. Oh...and for those of you that were at the show and remember...I am not gonna wait until 4 days before the meet...then decide to take a - rusted out rear window area, no back window, no vinyl top, no bucket seat brackets, no bucket seat, no console brackets, no console, non painted interior 1970 Monte and transform it within 96 hours into a car that arrived at 1:30 AM Saturday morning to the meet! I am still catching hell from everybody involved for that insanity! I am just so thankful that the family, my girlfriend, and my best friend were there pretty much that whole week to help me get the car drivable! Right now...with about a 1/2 foot of snow on the ground...though...I have to wait for Mother Nature to lighten up so that I can do some test driving with the new Avengers. Also...I bought a new HEI distributor, a mechanical fuel pump, and other goodies...so I still have plenty to do...but am already looking forward to August! It is just so nice to take the car for a drive and enjoy it...I look forward to the nice long 700+ mile drive this year! Oh...and before I forget...for those of you that will be traveling down our way for the meet...feel free to stay at our home for a night or two. I am figuring that the Alberta/Saskatchewan folks might be driving down I-15 through Montana. If so, feel free to stay over at our home if you like. I have already plotted out a few different ways to get to the 2010 meet from Helena, MT...so if anybody is interested in "convoying"...let me know and we can travel together. All for now...

Hey all...I just thought of a great idea... I can be the security guard...if...and only if...I get to drive every car that I am guarding...such as Vaughn and Jake...both of their cars that they brought to the Western meet earlier this year are AWESOME cars! Jake...I still want to go for a ride in yours! Vaughn...you better bring "my favorite" car of yours...the copper 71SS454! Also...bring one of your 4 speeds...that way me and you can have our own race and bang through the gears together! And based on "polls"...it looks like several more people will be going to Oregon in 2010... So...yea...I can be the security guard/dog/driver! In all honesty, I plan on going as well...but...we are planning on driving my car the 700 some miles to get there and plan on taking the whole week off. I think that the parents will be coming again and, if they do, they will most likely be bringing the motor home again this year. So...I can most likely help people with "guarding" the cars if need be. Geez...looks like I might have a dual role at the 2010 meet... -) computer expert -) guard dog Wow...it is -10 degrees outside...and I am on fire thinking about the 2010 meet! Can't wait to go!

Hello... Give this link a try... linky The "small metal tag" should have all the data that you need...I can't quite figure it out with the way that you typed it...but ususally the "CA" is in the center of the tag, and the other letters/numbers are to the left and right of the big center letters. Hope this helps you. Rodney