colonel Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 From what I can figure the numbers I find here tell me this engine is not the original one for this car. Can anyone confirm this for me from just these pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 that's the engine build date and code, there should be another set of numbers smaller and in a different font, being that, that is a 1970 monte, they could also be be the oil filter is that V0509CR? what's the last one? and big block or small block? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 It looks like the last number is a 5 as well. It is a small block. I will try and get a better picture with clearer focus on those numbers and try to have a look by the oil filter. Will I need to remove the oil filter to see those #'s if they are there? I will also try and get the trans ones so long as I am under there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72-CLASSIC_RIDE Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Once you have those numbers from components, you can go to FGMCC Home Page, scroll down L/H side of page to Resources and on the drop down menu select Technical Information. Explanations with diagrams, pics how to decode components. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 This is as good as it gets for the engine pic and there does not seem to be any other #'s on that same ledge. Can't see anything in the oil filter area either except I noticed a couple oil pan bolts missing but the holes seem filled in???? Any hints as to where the numbers might be in the oil filter area? Last # still looks like a 5 to me. Tech info does not have anything to decode this so is it possible it is the original engine or do I need the other #'s that are part of the vin to tell? The trans does not seem to have that flat area the other thread in this section shows where to look. Is it a diff spot for TH350 and TH400?? This one is a TH350 and I don't see anything that could have the numbers on it. Found these numbers on the diff in the right spot though. I didn't notice while under the car but it looks like there is a KD not just a D so will recheck that but the last digit is a 1 and I gather there should be nothing there if it isn't a posi which it isn't but there is a 1 so what does that mean??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72-CLASSIC_RIDE Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Okay, try using these websites below by either finding on that page or searching through the pages of each link. There are 3 for Engine, 1 for Tranny and 1 for Rear Axle. Each will give you what your looking for less the (5) stamped on engine ledge. Not sure what to say about that. It does look like a 5 to me also, but engine code data has no match. GM AXLE DECODING WEBSITES http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Rearend_identification#Axle_codes http://www.thecamaro.com/Decoding/Chevy-Axle-Rear-End-Decoding/ http://www.thecamaro.com/Decoding/ GM TRANSMISSION CODES http://www.nastyz28.com/chevy-transmission-identification.php You will find the location of Tranny ID stamp in this document! GM ENGINE CODES http://www.thecamaro.com/Decoding/Chevy-Engine-Code-Decoding/Chevelle-Engine-Code-Identification.php I recommend saving the links for future reference. 2 pics attached show what stamping should look like at those locations. Hope this helps. Good Luck.............. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Looks like V0509CRE if so V= Flint Mi 0509 is date, May 9th CRE= L48 350 300 hp with TH 350 trans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72-CLASSIC_RIDE Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Good eye John, I believe that's it! Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Also the number 1 refers to the shift that it was made for example B1 = built in Buffalo during first shift. Also double check the axle code again I believe 1970 was the only year Chevy used three letters to identify. Check to make sure the first letters are CKD. If so that is a 2.73:1 gear used in L48 350 and LS3 402. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 OK. Spent some time searching online and found this website that has all the codes I think one could ask for and it includes engine suffix codes. http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-camaro-engine-codes.asp My code is V0509CRE not 5 like I thought as the last 3 are letters Looking at them the first one is the manufacturing plant and V which is Flint which matches the VIN and the diff code that I got off the FGMCC tech area. So that makes sense. 0509 is the date which is close to the 0504 from the diff so that makes sense. CRE from the above websites listing shows a 1970 350-300 4 bbl th 350 which is what is in the car so I think I can rest assured it is the original engine but will still have another look for the partial vin stamping to see if I can verifiy this is the one made for this car. Perhaps the folks that make this website work can add the info from the camaro site to the tech section on our site to ease decoding in the future. ***I could have sworn I posted this last night but obviously didn't but looks like I found some of what you guys just mentioned.*** ***Thanks for the help.*** ***Good to know what that 1 means at the end of the diff numbers*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72jrfan88 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Mine was a real head scratcher at first. V1109CMD. Followed by my vin#. So I knew it belonged to the car. When I researched mine however on most sites it only said mine was in a 74 year taxi or police car!!!! Then I found out on a chevelle site that it was in a 72 monte with NB2 because it was a California car. November of 71 build date. My 2 barrel carb was switched to 4 according to meet California requirements as the only engine available in that state to conform with emissions was a 350 with 4 brl carb. I'm still confused. carb is Date coded properly and I was told dealer probably switched it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 I found this on the General Motors Heritage Site that allows you to find a complete book of your model year of car options and info. Very neat stuff here. https://gmheritagecenter.com/gm-heritage-archive/vehicle-information-kits.html Just scroll down to Monte Carlo, click on it and then select your year. I downloaded all 3 and saved them on my puter for later perusal. It did let me know I will never find strato buckets in blue so my desire for a blue interior is limited to bench seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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