jim's 70 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 So, one of the winter upgrades will be the fuel system. I will be going with an electric pump and all the goodies. My question is, running a 150 shot sniper system....whats the best way to set it up? I'm thinking pump to 2 port regulator. One line to the carb, the other to the solenoid. Been looking around, and see people running 2 regulators...deadhead regulator for nos and return regulator for the carb... single regulator split to carb and solenoid...deadhead for both...return style for both... ..soooooo many opinions out there...I'm sooo confused lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Andy plays with that funny stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71monteme Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Jim. depends on which pump you get, you might be able to run the fuel and nitrous on 1 pump. we run 2 stages of 200shot with dead head regulators for the nos and return regulator for the carb and all on 1 pump. nos fuel pressure between 5.5 to 6psi depending on the weather. Â thanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedfreak71 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I agree with jim. Depends on what pump you go with. 150 isn't much and that stuff is addictive. If you EVER think there is a possibility you will go with more you should set it up ONCE and build it with the possibility of advancement. I have a MagnaFuel pump because they are very reliable, made for continuous use and have a built in by-pass. Use 2 regulators. I'm not a fan of dead heading the regulator because the pressure will climb. Put a valve in line so you can shut it off in case of emergency. (Has saved my butt on many occasions. Like when the solenoids get stuck on) Always keep pressure off the NOS solenoids by use of a purge. They shouldn't see pressure until right before you use it then purge it right back off after words. I do so after I pull the shoot. Will get a lot more use from the solenoids if you take care of em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTimer Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Didn't your mother take you off the bottle a long time ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedfreak71 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Gee never heard that 1 funny man. #KneeSlapper should be your name instead of newtimer Didn't your mother take you off the bottle a long time ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim's 70 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Well...the pump is still a decision to be made. I have been looking at the Magnaflow stuff, and I like the regulator they offer. According to the descriptions, it it dosen't allow as much of a pressure drop when the solenoid is activated. I was hoping to stay with the 3/8 feed line, but them more I look into it, the more it looks "boarderline" to be enough. I will probably never go bigger then the 150 shot since it is the numbers matching block and I don't want to push it too far. I am trying to err on the side of caution as well as not totally blow up the budget lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 the magnafuel pump I had needed to get rebuilt every year, I'd look at the areomotive pumps myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
502ci Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Someday I will actually install my nitrous system...it has been sitting on a shelf for over 2 years now. I went with Edelbrock's 100-250 plate system. I have no intention of going beyond 150 but I like having a future option. Â Â Â I originally set my car up for a supercharger (eventually I will do it) but the same fuel system can be used for nitrous...I went overkill on everything. I have an Aeromotive A1000 pump and a Aeromotive return style regulator. I planned on removing the fuel pressure gauge in the picture and relocating it and using the port for the nitrous line. Not much I can offer other than don't build a system borderline...always overbuild it... Â I also have an Edlebrock nitrous controller that I have not even opened yet...another $500 part collecting dust... Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTimer Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 noted! Gee never heard that 1 funny man. #KneeSlapper should be your name instead of newtimer Originally Posted By: NewTimer Didn't your mother take you off the bottle a long time ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim's 70 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 I haven't heard that about the Magnaflow...interesting. I want to do this once, do it right and note have to play with it again....I know....wishful thinking lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedfreak71 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I know there are several good pumps out there. I like the magnaflow with the filter built in. I have and several of my racing buddies ( the ones that still run nitrous) run the magna flow 500 pump for 10 years now and to my knowledge only 1 has been rebuilt. As far as regulators go everyone including NOS gurus that build systems all swear by the regular holley 12-803 regulator. As a side note it isn't recommended using a pcv set up when using NOS. You don't EVER want to contaminate the incoming fuel and NOS with oil. CONVENTIONAL Oil burns and when hit with a highly combustible situation ( which is nitrous. A controlled explosion that hits the intake at -128 degrees ) the oil can act like a torch right through the piston. World renowned Engine guy Tony Bischoff owner of BES engine service told me that's exactly why he runs a GOOD synthetic like royal purple. When it does get by the rings and into the cylinder it won't burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim's 70 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Wow...didn't know that about the pcv..makes perfect sense though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Burns Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Sorry, I just saw this movie... this scene jumped out at me: Â Â (I have thousand$ of N20 stuff sitting on the shelf...and a 540 under the hood! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I love NOS... Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCfan Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I love NOS...   I sure hope that is not a typical reaction time to a fire at the starting line!! Was the guy just trying to collect insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTimer Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 That is one hell of a hood latch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Auto Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Andy plays with that funny stuff Who, me? Â Got them lined up at the door right now so I'll be breif. Â First, Davey is afraid of it. Second, you can go as wild or mild on your fuel system as you want, but I am all about elegance and simplicity. Â I run it on four of my cars and my basic recipe is a Holley Black, Holley regulator, -10 Pushlok to the reg, -10 to the carb, and -6 to the nitrous solenoid. One reg, just split the need. But I an a 250 shot max. More than that on a plate system and you really got to be spot on with the tune. Â Always start as conservative as you can off the bat. Pull more timing than recomended by the manufacturer. Use a good non precious metal plug. Invest in a hobbs switch to automatically turn off the system below a pre set fuel pressure (usually 4 pounds). Â Â It is a cheap kick in the pants if you do it right. Every motor I ever melted was due to laziness. Done right you will eventually invest in your own filling station (a 100 pounder is $93 here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDavey Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Me afraid??? well maybe a little because I'd figure out a way to screw it up.... it's tempting though when you now have a 8.50 chassis cert.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim's 70 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 Come to the dark side Davey lol Thanks for the input Andy, and everyone else. The most I'll be shooting is 150, just would rather be on the safer side. I know the "recommended" jetting is always a lil rich to safe, I've just thought myself in a circle worrying about the fuel supply lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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