Aaronz28 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 So, i was thinking of ordering a concours system from Gardner exhaust - they claim the systems for Chevelle/Elky/Monte are all the same.... with the longer wheelbase -how can this be?Or is the added length of the wheelbase on the front end only? i.e. from mid engine back - monte/elky are the same as the Chevelle?this would make sense with the longer fan shroud - but i wanna be sure before spending a chunk of money on a high dollar exhaust system thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 the Chevelle systems fit our montes, I used the Gardener system on my '70 4 speed, fit perfect, Gardender knows their stuff, we used '69 tailpipes because I used the cowbell exhaust tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronz28 Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 the Chevelle systems fit our montes, I used the Gardener system on my '70 4 speed, fit perfect, Gardender knows their stuff, we used '69 tailpipes because I used the cowbell exhaust tips Sam, can you post photo or two of the exhaust? would love to see it... I'm thinking of their 69 Chambered system for my SS454 - for fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If I can find the pictures of it I since have sold that car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtankjones Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Where can I find said exhaust system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronz28 Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 GardnerExhaust.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangeba Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Many years ago I used a Walker Chevelle small block dual system for my 71 that is still in place, third replacement, free mufflers. Last time I checked they no longer sell 3 of the 4 pipes required. Some day I would love a Gardner quality factory dual system with the chrome tailpipes like the SS had. Small block tailpipes are smaller and don't have the chrome extentions. I once read Gardner doesn't mix and match or change a system. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronz28 Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 They do not mix/match anything - they build concours quality systems from the blue prints of the original systems - and they only sell complete kits i have had several of their systems on Camaros and the systems literally fall into place perfectly - i've never ever encountered another system that does that. i've used their chambered and transverse system on my 69 Z28 and absolutely love the fit/finish/sound.... something about an OE muscle car muffle just does it for me. Here is my 69 Z with their chambered system on it - the chevelle chambered system has resonators before the tail pipe tips so its a tad more subdued I think - https://youtu.be/hTRntCxb7es and someone else 69 Chevelle with their chambered system.. https://youtu.be/YNCZtaP9WP8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 they are pricey!!! but worth EVERY! penny! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostnFound Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 they are pricey!!! but worth EVERY! penny! What kinda dough are we talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If you have to ask.......well, you know what they say. rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostnFound Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If you have to ask.......well, you know what they say. rob Yes I know but I honestly have no idea of a ballpark and there are no prices on the website. I have a saying....everything is affordable if you want it bad enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I spent over 1k on mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostnFound Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I spent over 1k on mine OK...that's not so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronz28 Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Eric refrains from putting prices on the web - i think its so that people call and discuss exactly what they need - they have a wealth of info as to what systems specifically came on cars i.e. factory changes and such - and they offer things like "concours" package which has technically accurate hangers as opposed to simply functional, and then they can ceramic coat the flanges, they offer zinc coated clamps, etc etc... so its not just "1 1970 Monte Carlo system pls" as for price - my Chambered system for my Camaro was like 1600-1800 with the concours package, heat riser, ceramic coated flanges, and shipping... so definably not cheap... but when it comes to being perfect - there simply is no comparison...... And for sure - when its performance you are after, a good aftermarket mandrel bent system is far superior in terms of performance (sound is subjective so i won't go there) but if you are doing a high dollar resto with manifolds and want every detail correct... these guys are it. Thanks Aaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I opted for the ceramic coated flanges and clamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I am going to go with Gardner myself. I am going to get the same tail pipes, 69 Chevelle and tips as Sam. It will be a little over 1K. I printed off pictures of the underside of Sam's car. The system is excellent as far as I'm concerned and it looked to fit perfectly. John S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostnFound Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Just thought of something....a thousand USD is like a kazzillion CDN...and another kazzillion for shipping and duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangeba Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 If you bought it then had it sent to someone in the US then took a road trip and installed it in the US, would that help? Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aaronz28 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Just thought of something....a thousand USD is like a kazzillion CDN...and another kazzillion for shipping and duty. what part of Ontario are you in? I'm in Allen Park, which is 15 minutes south of the bridge.... maybe Eric will give us a deal on 2 systems... probably not but you could ship it to my place if that would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daberry Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I used D&A Old School Automotive for my SS. I did it I think 3 years ago. They were MUCH cheaper than Gardner. I can't say about concourse quality because I don't know concourse. But I can say my head pipes were original GM and the D&A head pipes were spot on. Every bend, bulge, and dent. The system was a breeze to install. I may have taken some picks of them laying side by side. I'll see if I can find them. Dale http://daoldschoolautomotive.com/montecarlo.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daberry Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I used D&A Old School Automotive for my SS. I did it I think 3 years ago. They were MUCH cheaper than Gardner. I can't say about concourse quality because I don't know concourse. But I can say my head pipes were original GM and the D&A head pipes were spot on. Every bend, bulge, and dent. The system was a breeze to install. I may have taken some picks of them laying side by side. I'll see if I can find them. Dale http://daoldschoolautomotive.com/montecarlo.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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