montebob70 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I was checking the engine code for my Monte had have a question. On the top right side of the block there is a engine code but no serial number. Would this indicate a replacement engine? On a side not I'm not sure this engine is out of this car as it was not in the car when I got it. The engine code is V0417 CRE, which is correct for my car. Thoughts? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Bob, 396SS.com has some stuff that might help. Here's a couple things that can get you started. My guess is that if there's no serial number, it's probably a replacement. Scott. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montebob70 Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 V= Flint 417= April 17 CRE= 350 ci 4 brl. 350 turbo trans. No serial number Bob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Check down on the block by the oil filter and see if a v.i. number is stamped. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70white402 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/2/2024 at 7:59 PM, Dtret said: Check down on the block by the oil filter and see if a v.i. number is stamped. My vin is stamped by the oil filter. Sept 69 build 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montebob70 Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 I didn't make it out to the garage today. I will check by the oil filter tomorrow. The great granddaughter's birthday was today. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montebob70 Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 ODE CExxxx (counter or crate engine) was used from 1968 to current year. It represents any CID and is used to indicate this particular engine was replaced under Warranty. It is a direct replacement for the original equipment. It doesn't indicate what the original equipment was. My engine is a CER code. So it appears to be a replacement engine. I didn't find a serial no. by the oil filter area. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Now that's probably more rare than a numbers matching car..... Makes one curious as to if it was a special order car at the dealership ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montebob70 Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 Makes me wonder what happened to the original engine. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 2/2/2024 at 1:35 PM, Scott S. said: Bob, 396SS.com has some stuff that might help. Here's a couple things that can get you started. My guess is that if there's no serial number, it's probably a replacement. Scott. Note that our site has that info specifically for first gen Montes as well as transmission, rear end, etc. 🙂 https://www.firstgenmc.com/forums/index.php?/resources/decodingengine/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Your "One stop shop for all things First Gen Montes" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montebob70 Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 thanks guys. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 2/5/2024 at 1:46 PM, montebob70 said: ODE CExxxx (counter or crate engine) was used from 1968 to current year. It represents any CID and is used to indicate this particular engine was replaced under Warranty. It is a direct replacement for the original equipment. It doesn't indicate what the original equipment was. My engine is a CER code. So it appears to be a replacement engine. I didn't find a serial no. by the oil filter area. Bob Hi Bob, in your first message you said the code was CRE which is a 1970 350 with a Turbo 350. A Chevrolet engine (Code CE) would be a warranty replacement block. If the code is CER it is either of these engines (check the casting date on the back of the block. CRE 1970 350 tur 350 300 4 A F X CER 1978 305 - U LG3 145 2 G/impala CER 1980 305 - H LG4 155 4 G/Omega 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbarnette Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I’ve known since I purchased it, that my engine is not original to the car. Now I’m trying to figure it out. I guess I need to check the block casting number, but this is all I have so far. Not much to go on. Looks like it was built at the Tonawanda plant on Dec. 3rd (my birthday). IMG_5462.heic IMG_5444.heic IMG_5465.heic IMG_5454.heic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 the engine code is very hard to read. It LOOKS like it might be TKW. If so it was from a chevy truck, Also can't make out the date code but it looks to be 1973 which could have made it a 1974 truck built in fall of 1973. TKW 1974 350 van & bus 160 4 C-10 to 2500 TKW 1978 350 fwrd cab L LS9 165 4 C-20 to 3500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbarnette Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 34 minutes ago, RichG said: the engine code is very hard to read. It LOOKS like it might be TKW. If so it was from a chevy truck, Also can't make out the date code but it looks to be 1973 which could have made it a 1974 truck built in fall of 1973. TKW 1974 350 van & bus 160 4 C-10 to 2500 TKW 1978 350 fwrd cab L LS9 165 4 C-20 to 3500 Hey thanks Rich! I appreciate it! Just out of curiousity, where did you find this information. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Here.. Nastyz28.com https://www.nastyz28.com/chevy-engine-code-stampings.php#suffix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 All Camaros are nasty...... Montes are CLASSY. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jft69z Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 25 minutes ago, Scott S. said: All Camaros are nasty...... Montes are CLASSY. Hey, hey, hey....bite your tongue...😁 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Camaros are like the girls you'd NEVER take home to meet Mom........ Dad maybe, but NEVER Mom. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 It's a "guy" thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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