jacob Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 what is your opinions on warrantys as far as the engine being rebuilt i have about a 1000 for it now theres a shop that can do the heads and all the internal engine work with a waranty. its a bit more expensive but i like the fact that if some thing happens he will take car of it if its any thing hes done i now hes trusted because he does school bus engines for the schools. The other idea is to see what you guys or girls recommend theres no problem with me and my grand dad building the engine wich he has done plenty of times theres just no warrenty if some thing goes wrong. should i stick with letting some one else do it or should we do it with yalls advice let me know what you think please . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGD72Monte Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 If your grandfather has successfully rebuilt plenty of engines and is willing to help you, I would not hesitate. That is a great opportunity, you'll learn skills that will last you your entire life and have the pride of having taken part in rebuilding your car and that's worth more than any warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I have built all of my own and several for friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssmonte70 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 If your grandfather has the skills you will gain 2 things:  1. The skills and learnings from your grandfather to potentially do this later on in life as you never know when you might take on another project  2. You save the $1000 that you're not giving someone else for their time. You can re-invest this money into something else that the car may need.  Good luck with whatever you decide....Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 okay you have not had any problems with building them your self have you? and what kind of crank shaft pistons cam push rods rocker arms ect do you recommend i want a good sounding deep agreesive rumble with plenty of horse power and torque. i will be driving the car a good bit and im taking private driving lessons in december and both my mom grand dad grand mother are great drivers ( my grand dad has done some crazy stuff before like going thru trafic cones on a high way and has raced in reverse). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VE3HZZ Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Jacob I would have to agree with the others advice. If your grandfather has rebuilt engines and knows what he is going you have a guide to help you along the way, and learn valuable lessons to use for a long time to come. And once you get your hands in there and do it (correctly) you will come to learn the noises it makes and can decipher any problems from just listening to it. You become more in tune with your mechanical beast to know when it's ill. Â Also it can be another bonding experience with your granddad and that is never a bad thing and memories you can share and keep for the rest of your life. Â As for engine specs, well there are a lot of good engine rebuilt KITS that are mild upgrades in power out there I'd go with one of these to get a solid engine. Later on if once this is working you can re-built it OR built up another engine using more performance parts mix and matched but for this build being your first MILD and semi Stock KITS are likely the way to go. Â This gets you all the parts needed to do the job and a solid foundation for your build. Â Good luck what ever you decide to do. Â Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTimer Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 You will respect your car so much more doing it yourself. I rebuilt my engine when I was 16 and after that did not want to do anything that could harm it afterwards. Plus not many people now a days can drive down the road and say "I built it". That money could go into a lot better things. Plus your grand dad may have been waiting for this moment to work on it with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FASTSS454 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 You will respect your car so much more doing it yourself. I rebuilt my engine when I was 16 and after that did not want to do anything that could harm it afterwards. Plus not many people now a days can drive down the road and say "I built it". That money could go into a lot better things. Plus your grand dad may have been waiting for this moment to work on it with you. Are you sure you built it? Sorry for the political humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudax Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Jacob, I have to agree with everyone else here. You need to get involved with as much as possible working on your car. The warranty thing will only get you so far and unless you have deep pockets, eventually you have to get in there and start turning wrenches yourself. You have to start somewhere and you will definately learn as you go with a little research and posting on this site you shouldn't have too much to worry about. Â Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTimer Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I am 100% sure I did, In fact have the sweat to prove it (; Originally Posted By: NewTimer You will respect your car so much more doing it yourself. I rebuilt my engine when I was 16 and after that did not want to do anything that could harm it afterwards. Plus not many people now a days can drive down the road and say "I built it". That money could go into a lot better things. Plus your grand dad may have been waiting for this moment to work on it with you. Are you sure you built it? Sorry for the political humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badddoin Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I remember a huge sense of accomplishment when that first motor actually started and ran. Something you don't want to miss, Jacob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny first gen 71 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm going to do mine myself when the time comes. I havent done one in years but small blocks havent changed that much. Take your time, get good quility parts and you shouldnt have any problems. Theres a few good books out too I have a couple from David Vizard, very good books. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Richey Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 If he's done it, do it with him. If something is wrong you don't lose any labor money. Just triple check everything, this should be nothing new if he's done it before. Â Good luck! I stil have that roof by the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 i have not forget jared im just geting it to move again and my welders not set up yet i have to get the electriction up the street to fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Jacob I have to agree with everyone else here. Work with your Grandfather on the engine rebuild and learn all you can. It's a memory that you will keep for ever. For me half the fun of these cars is working on them and learning all I can about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostnFound Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I agree as well Jacob. This is certainly an opportunity for some special time with your Grandfather that you'll always remember and cherish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jacob Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 my grand dads only concern is that some thing goes wrong and the clyinder wall gets scored and we will have nothing to fall back on or if some thing else goes wrong and then what we lose money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGD72Monte Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Some food for thought. Â When you pay for the work you pay for the parts, plus a fat mark up by the shop plus you pay for somebody's time/skill/equipment/facilities to do the work for you. The shop also includes an amount in the price for future potential repairs and call it a warranty. So you've already lost the money up front, basically if there is warranty work, you've already paid for it in all the extra costs and keep in mind you will likely have to fight for the warranty to be honoured depending on the nature of the problem.... and you haven't gained any skills out of the process! Â IMO here is when it might make sense to have someone do work for you: Â 1. You can't do it (lack of skills/tools/facilities/physically impossible) and can't address these issues for whatever reason. 2. You could probably do the work but it is so complex and the application so critical that you determine only a true professional/specialist can accomplish it to the performance standards you require. 3. You would have to take time off from your job to do the work and the lost revenues exceed the cost of having someone do the work for you. 4. You hate having to do the work and are willing to take the financial hit to avoid having to do it. 5. You are pressed for time and are willing to take the financial hit to get the work done faster than if you did it yourself. 6. You are so rich that the cost of the work is relatively insignificant and not worth your leisure time. Â There might be other reasons but I don't believe a warranty is a good reason for what you are looking at doing with this car. Â Good luck whatever you decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 well I found a mix of both im having the engine rebuilt taking it there on monday we talked with mike and he is going to let me watch and hes going to get the parts he said he will put a L 79 cam in there and it should have 325 HP or better. and me and my grand dady were wondering we already have the front end off and it would be nice to take the body off the frame put brand new fuel and brake lines new gas tank redo the suspension and gut the interior. then we wil do all the rust repair body work and get every thing back together and get it painted every where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostnFound Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Hi Jacob, That is a lot of work but it will be a great learning experience for you and you are correct about it being the right time to do it while the engine is out. I think that later you will be glad you went that far when you did. Happy Thanksgiving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte70car Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Jacob why you want to put a older cam in it when there is better ones out in the market? body off came be done just take your time make sure you raise the body the same distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 would the body need to be braced so it does not shift or any thing like that? and does any one know whre to get a complete stainless steel bolt kit for the hole carcan be bought for like the body, front end, engine compartment, fenders,hood trunk lid I would like to get it all at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 And what is the absolute best #1 rust profing rust preventative i want to do it one time so i want to rust proof every where where water or moisture can get... I hate rust and its not allowed in my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Richey Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hardware store will be your best bet for body bolts. They sale Stainless engine bolt kits from ARP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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