TheBMan Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Anyone know anything about this car? The price feels a little strong but the car looks relatively complete and original. https://nashvillespeedshop.com/vdp/19238748/Used-1970-Chevrolet-Monte-Carlo-SS-for-sale-in-Nashville-TN-37027 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I think it’s a good price. Flint car with documents. It’s not perfect but it’s a great car. I didn’t notice much wrong other than the exhaust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragCat Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 It seems to have a nice family history lol. At least they provided lots of pictures. I'll be interested of what the more knowledgabe members think. The only thing that popped out to me was the driver seat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCfan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Great looking '70 SS - a twin to the one I owned for eight years! The window sticker lists the "Automatic Seat Back Latch" and the power cord going up into the seat back is visible on the passenger's folded-forward seat back. That seems to be an extremely rare option on first gen Montes. There is no Build Sheet on a Flint assembled car but I believe that was RPO AQ5 in '70. Wonder if anyone has seen that option on other first gens? I installed the after market power seat back latch release kit from Klassic Keyless on my SS and really enjoyed it. For a fairly heavily optioned car, I'm surprised it does not have power windows. I know prices are rising on first gens (and SS models in particular), but for $48K+ I would expect enough attention to detail to have the correct exhaust tips and the (allegedly) available compressor installed and that ratty looking trunk freshened up. It simply does not take that much effort or money to make it look a whole lot better. Been there, done that. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBMan Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 Great comments, @MCfan. I agree that they didn't seem to put much effort into sale prep, also that they didn't photograph the compressor - if it exists. My opinion on this car is that it's probably a low $40s car in its current condition. I plan to contact them but I really wanted to get feedback from some of the experts here before I do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
714024SPEED Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I think it's a little pricey but seems to be a very "honest" car. Would not take much to bring it to the next level. Sometimes I like that they didn't try and do a quick paint job under the hood and trunk just to sell it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I agree with Kevin. I like the idea of the “original “ look. It’s a better possibility that the seller is honest and didn’t just rattle can the car to make it look good. If they do that then you have to wonder what else they’re hiding. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBMan Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 Regarding the lack of photos of the air compressor for the leveling system, I just noticed this comment in one of the notes included with the photos. I read those notes multiple times and just glossed over it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragCat Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I guess your just going to have to go and put eyes on it. Keep us posted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex & Keith 72 Monte Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Maybe I missed them but any car over $20 K should have photos of the chassis. So many cars engine bays and top side look great but underside needs restoring. My two cents… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBMan Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 56 minutes ago, DragCat said: I guess your just going to have to go and put eyes on it. Keep us posted I called them today. Got voicemail so I emailed with specific questions saying that I wanted to know a few things before I committed to driving 6 hours to look at it. A guy named Andy replied and said he would call me tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 See if you can get pictures of the vin on the engine block by the oil filter and possibly the one off the transmission. That way you have proof the engine and transmission are correct for the car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS Z20 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Look at the driver's side door jamb notice the 2 switches I for the interior lights like they all have and one for the electric seat release WOW never see that. Also, power door locks and no power windows. He must have wanted the seat releases bad, and you had to order the power door locks because you needed the harness for it. Thats what I liked about the old cars you could get what you wanted and no buy a package like they make you do now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Bryan, My 2 cents… Seller says the only part of the interior that’s been replaced is the package tray. This would suggest it was likely water damaged/warped at some point. Luckily it appears the original speaker grills made the transition to the new tray. Additional possible clues to support this theory: • judging by the seams under rear window not lining up with deck lid gaps, the vinyl top has likely been replaced. Which usually means rust remediation around the back glass has been performed • minor rust issues in the trunk support the leaky back glass theory Which means the suggestion by Keith and Alex makes sense to see how the frame, chassis and other things underneath look. While sleuthing around under the car (ideally the seller can arrange a lift for such viewing) check for those all too important numbers of which Dennis speaks. Good luck and keep us posted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 All good advice from Glen. Just on fyi on the vinyl top. I still not fully convinced that that seams were lined up from the factory. I’ve seen original vinyl top cars ( or so I was told, take it for what it’s worth) that have the seams not lining up. I don’t know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970mcss Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I noticed the driver's seat cover looks like it's been taped up. Wouldn't you think for that kind of asking price you would put a new seat cover on the car. Still looks like a nice car 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC-71 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Vinyl top rear seams above the trunk lid are in the wrong spot. Should line up with the quarter panel seam. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBMan Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 14 hours ago, Glen said: Bryan, My 2 cents… Seller says the only part of the interior that’s been replaced is the package tray. This would suggest it was likely water damaged/warped at some point. Luckily it appears the original speaker grills made the transition to the new tray. Additional possible clues to support this theory: • judging by the seams under rear window not lining up with deck lid gaps, the vinyl top has likely been replaced. Which usually means rust remediation around the back glass has been performed • minor rust issues in the trunk support the leaky back glass theory Which means the suggestion by Keith and Alex makes sense to see how the frame, chassis and other things underneath look. While sleuthing around under the car (ideally the seller can arrange a lift for such viewing) check for those all too important numbers of which Dennis speaks. Good luck and keep us posted. Hey Glen, yes, he mentions in the ad that the top was replaced (twice, I think). I would agree with your guess that it was water damage around the rear window. I talked to the guy today, he is going to send me photos. I'll update here when he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBMan Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, MC-71 said: Vinyl top rear seams above the trunk lid are in the wrong spot. Should line up with the quarter panel seam. Hey Carl, yes, see my comments to Glen regarding the top. It does say in the ad that it has been replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBMan Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 20 hours ago, Dtret said: See if you can get pictures of the vin on the engine block by the oil filter and possibly the one off the transmission. That way you have proof the engine and transmission are correct for the car. Great tip, Dennis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, TheBMan said: Hey Glen, yes, he mentions in the ad that the top was replaced (twice, I think). I would agree with your guess that it was water damage around the rear window. I talked to the guy today, he is going to send me photos. I'll update here when he does. Must’ve missed that… running on little sleep lately. Sounds good, looking forward to seeing what he shows you. And adding to Dennis’s numbers suggestion. See if the seller will accommodate sliding the alternator over to see if she bears the “CRN” and partial VIN stamp on the pad on the head to corroborate the claim of “original engine”. Hopefully the block wasn’t decked removing these identifiers when rebuilt in ‘81. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBMan Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Here are a few of pictures and two videos he sent me. I specifically asked about the area around the hinges and package shelf in the trunk since they are prone to rust. That area looks better than I expected. @Glen @MC-71 @Dtret @1970mcss @MCfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970mcss Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 It looks pretty good to me. The first video was a bit blurry on my pc. As for the price, let's hope the value of these cars will keep going up. There are only so many of these cars left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 That’s nice!!!! Keep in mind the “ rust “ you see in the trunk is surface rust. Gm did a horrible job of painting the inside. Anything they couldn’t hit never got protected. Watching the videos, look around the shop. This guy knows what he has. There’s no “ junk” in that shop. Just a note if you buy I could use the extra black vinyl top. Yep “ ambulance chaser” in action. Lol. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCfan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Selling off that extra vinyl top might bring the net purchase price down into the reasonable range. They go for around $10K, right? 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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