Robarmelas454SS Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Hello everyone, Im new to this site I hope someone here can help me with my dilemma. I just purchased a real nice project, it's a number matching 70SS 454 with the build sheet My problem is the motor was out of the car everything was in boxes a few parts were missing but all the key items were all there. The self leveling tank was in the box I dont know were it mounts, also the rodchester carb throttle cable braket is missing Im trying to find a vacume hose diagram. If anyone has detailed pictures of their 454 motor compartment I would love to see them please help Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Al, This link may help. You can also access it from our home page under Technical Information: http://firstgenerationmontecarlo.com/tech/ss454.shtml Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black07ss Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Al do you have any pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I'm sure someone will chime in here with some help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robarmelas454SS Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Thanks guys I will post pics soon,Im trying to get it started, I notice the kid who had it put the distributor in wrong the timing was way off,got the timing right now trying to run the vacuum lines to the proper place but I don't have a diagram to go by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS5 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Hey Al, welcome to the club and all the Madness and help that goes with it.....Dont forget the pics and to Anti-up on a membership as it has its benifits and loads of cool stuff to get involved in...... Bear with me here Al as I will try to up load some info for you... Plus does your 70 SS have Air Cond as that will help get the right hose diagramme that you seek or is it a non AC 454.??? Darren. Pic # 1 air ride pump.... Pic # 2 air ride rear end details.. Pic # 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Welcome Al! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robarmelas454SS Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 thanks LS5 will do, yes its an ac car I see the parts in the box I thing the ac brackets are missing, awesome diagram this is just what I needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I sent you a private message regarding the AC brackets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jays55 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Welcome! Looking forward to pics and more details of your MCSS. Post a picture of your build sheet so we can see the specifics.... Again, WELCOME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mcarlo Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Welcome! Looking forward to pics and more details of your MCSS. to the FGMCC!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robarmelas454SS Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hey Jay,I have the pics of my build sheet and the car I just don't know how to upload pictures here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overdrive Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Welcome to the site. This is a member's 70 SS . Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robarmelas454SS Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 very nice motor compartment this is what I'm trying to accomplish. anyone know what the correct fan is for the 454 I found three in my part boxes Im also missing the fan clutch I'm assuming these cars had the clutch.Also in the boxes were two rochester quadrajet carburetor how would I identify the correct one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS5 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hey Al , here is one of the AC stuff under the hood.... Bare in mind in the picture the firewall does end right behing the AC houseing unit...GM just did a cut-away veiw of the underside of the interior dash here so you can see the vents too.....If you need the Dash diagram too let me know I have that also and its really detailed and LOTS of hoses... Darren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robarmelas454SS Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Thanks Darren,this is what i was looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny first gen 71 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Welcome aboard Al, anything you need to know ask away someone here knows the answer or knows the next question to ask in the quest to find the correct answer. You have come upon a great group of people here. Did anyone mention we love pictures here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robarmelas454SS Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 anyone know what was size was the original fan and how many blades for the 454 with AC ,Also how do I identify the correct carburetor?here is a list of what came with this car I found 2 Quadrajet carbs, 2 edelbrock carbs, 3 fan blades, 3 sets of BB valve covers 3 air cleaners,2 alternators, 2 complete 454 Motors the original motor is on my engine stand. Also a bunch of miscellaneous parts.Im trying to figure out whats what . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Gray SS Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I believe my stock fan is 7 blades and it does have a clutch. I can get a number off of the carb when I get home from work if you like. It is a quadrajet, not sure on the # Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robarmelas454SS Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 The biggest fan I have is a 6 blade I did not think it was the correct one .when you get a chance on the carb,thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Each carb will have a number on them to identify them. Check those numbers against the info on this page: http://www.recarbco.com/technical/rochester/qjet.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS5 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hey Al, Jake is right it is a 7 Blade and is suppose to look like this in the picture with the clutch as well, My part number ends in 772 and it is 17-7/8ths across or 18 inches for all intense purposes I guess.... and also as well Aaron related to the Carbs. it will denote the date as he mentioned and where to find the numbers...It will also let you know in the numbers if it is for a Automatic Car or a 4spd Car too...on the right hand side on the Back Flank by the throttle linkage there sideways...this is the one out of my 454 car.. Darren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dans '70 Z20 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The two quadrajets used on 1970 SS454's were 7040200 and 7040500. The only difference being where the car was built. Since emissions started in California in 1970 and then spread to rest of country in 1971, any car built in Van Nuys plant had a different Carburetor than the rest of the country due to emissions. 7040500 was the Rochester Quadrajet code for a Van Nuys built car 7040200 was the code for the rest of the country. Hope this helps. They are very difficult to find b/c number is specific to a 454 in a Monte. If you need one this guy is likely your best bet. He had both in multiple date codes when I got mine a few years ago. Mark @ Specialized Investments 830-550-1205. He advertises in Hemmings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robarmelas454SS Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 ok, this is what I have the quadrajet 7041200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montefrazer Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 If the car was origionally sold in California or you have a charcoal canister, or signs one was mounted to the left front frame rail, you will have a few extra vacuum hoses that most SS Montes didn't have. It's all part of the California emissions set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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