Gregs70 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Hey Monte family i have a question about the chrome trim under the headlight on the 70, I was just curious because i don't seem to see it very often, was it a early option like the 70 Chevelle? or was it common and people just removed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 My 70 is a late built (June 1970) Baltimore plant and it has it. I know as some plants ran out they didn't reorder so they left them off. In other cases I feel they were removed for whatever reason and not reinstalled. rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montebob70 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 One man's stupid opinion. Looks better without it. Unless your doing a restoration. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, montebob70 said: One man's stupid opinion. Looks better without it. Unless your doing a restoration. Bob Bob, Not a stupid opinion, just an opinion. Personally I feel it is one of those things that set's the 70 apart from the 71/72 and helps to make the 70 special, just like the the front fenders being different, the instrument panel lighting and numerous other things. My non-stupid opinion is it looks great. Just like the differing opinions on what make us special, differing items on each year are what make each year special. rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1of80 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Also Bob, when you remove the chrome trim on a factory installed trim car the holes where it mounts are huge compared to a non chrome trim car. The headlight bezels are actually different where the lower portion mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbarnette Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 My 70 was built in March of 1970 in Flint, MI. It doesn’t have the chrome under the headlights, but I wish it did. I personally like the look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Richey Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Depends on assembly plant. I've seen july cars with and without Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 My 70 has them, but didn’t notice as they’ve been painted Shadow Grey to match the car somewhere along the way. I would’ve never known about these had I not read this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1of80 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 My early 70, Sept 69, Flint built SS454 car has them also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 My '70 was assembled in Flint in Sept/70, and has them too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, Scott S. said: My '70 was assembled in Flint in Sept/70, and has them too... More than likely Sept 69. SEPT 70 was when 71's were released 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Pretty..... Nope, she was assembled in '70. Got the vin # checked, and an assortment of '71/ end of '70 run bits and pieces. The grill emblem was original, but read vxxi. on an egg crate grill. She's pretty close to the last of her batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Scott, the last of the 1970 Monte Carlo's were built I think in July of 1970. As a matter of fact, I think some of the factories were shut down the end of June to retool. The assembly line was then shut down and retooled for the 1971 assembly run. If you did not buy your car new I would have to assume that someone over the years may have either wrecked it and purchased parts he could find or it may not have been wrecked but someone may have purchased items they liked better from other years. One of the reasons I say this is looking at the picture I see what looks like a 1972 hood ornament which would not have been available in September of 1970. When you say you had the VIN checked how was that check run. Do you have any dealer paperwork. Could you take a picture of the body tag that shows the paint codes and other information and either post it here or email it to me it may shed some light on this. Being a flint built car you would not be able to find a build sheet but there are other ways we can help you verify your information. Is there still a sticker on the inside of the drivers door near the door latch? If yes that would also have an assembly date on it. Being that the fenders, radiator core support and the fender extensions are all different on the 70 than they were on the 71 it is hard to figure how that many 70 parts could still be out on the assembly line because each of these parts would come from a different area and since they would not match 71 parts it further makes it hard to figure how a build date of September 70. Please don't feel I am calling you a liar, what it is is that things like this interest me a lot and I love to get to the bottom of things like this. Rob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montebob70 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I will have to dig my head light surrounds out to see if they have the holes for the trim, I don't think they do. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Hey Rob, I'm still sifting through all the information I've accumulated since I bought her two years ago.... So any clarity I can get is more that welcome !!! I'm finding a lot of things were wrong/slapped together, leading me to question her origins and the abilities of those who had there hands on her prior to me. As soon as I get a chance, I'll get a picture of the tag and send you a copy. Here's a few more pictures that might be helpful..... As you can see, she's in the middle of a body make over. Thanks for all the insights you can give me..... Glad I found you guys/gals on the site !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Hey Rob, the VIN# is 138570F132861 ... if that helps. Thanks again, Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Scott S. said: Hey Rob, the VIN# is 138570F132861 ... if that helps. Thanks again, Scott. Scott, The VIN is telling us that it is a Flint MI plant built car which means you won't find a Build Sheet. A build sheet would have told us the build date. The last 6 numbers of the VIN may help to somewhat isolate the build date ONLY if other members with Flint built cars have a firm build date of their car and the last 6 numbers of the VIN are fairly close to yours. The best way will be the body tag.ll rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Hi Rob..... No such luck, the tag was removed prior to the last paint job. I was just wondering.... Didn't the strike in '69 push back the release of the '70 line of Monte Carlos as well ?? The second gen Camaros/Firebirds weren't released April of '70, once the over production of the '69 body style was cleared out. Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I think I can see the body tag through the hood hinge when the car was/is green. That’s the tag Rob is referring to. Possibly just my eyes. Not to good at my age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leghome Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Scott S. said: Hi Rob..... No such luck, the tag was removed prior to the last paint job. I was just wondering.... Didn't the strike in '69 push back the release of the '70 line of Monte Carlos as well ?? The second gen Camaros/Firebirds weren't released April of '70, once the over production of the '69 body style was cleared out. Scott. I ordered my 70 Monte Sept 20th 1969 The Flint plant went on strike so 10 weeks later I received my Monte for the Van Nuys plant in Cali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Dtret said: I think I can see the body tag through the hood hinge when the car was/is green. That’s the tag Rob is referring to. Possibly just my eyes. Not to good at my age. There's a tag there, but it doesn't really have any meaning to it. I was looking for the tag on the door jam, but it's gone. Can still see some of the glue residue under the paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott S. Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Hi Larry, According to the profile I got from registries, She was originally sold by Edmonton Motors in October '70..... Then moved to Ontario in the later '70's. I bought her from a dealership in Sudbury in '19 and had her shipped out to me. Having had the paint stripped, it looks like she's had a couple shades of green, but anything that still has the original coat looks like it's never been apart.... (door hinges and such) So she's still pretty solid for a 50 year old !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Scott S. said: There's a tag there, but it doesn't really have any meaning to it. I was looking for the tag on the door jam, but it's gone. Can still see some of the glue residue under the paint. Take a picture of the tag on the cowl and post it. I assure you it will get deciphered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montebob70 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 I finally dug out my head light surrounds. They don't have the holes for the chrome trim. My monte was built at the Flint plant. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinquack Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 My car was missing the LH under headlight trim when I bought it, Thought I had a Good history of the car since I got it from the 2nd owner. However I have found diferent paint on the edge of the LH fender so the fender has been replaced at some point. I got a pair of used trim on ebay and the LH is corroded pretty bad, dont think it can just be replated. They are pretty similar so the RH would probably fit on the LH fine. Kinda bugs me but nobody else would probably notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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