Steve G Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Hello, i am not very familiar with the SS monte. But i do know the obvious... its got a 454. OK, now here is where i get confused, i read in your tech "how to tell an SS" and it says there are no SS 4speed production cars. Are you sure of this? I personally have seen several so called SS-4 speed Monte carlos, and even some of my collectors books mention a 4 speed as an option for the monte SS. The part thats driving me crazy is i know somewhere i saw actual production #s for the SS-4 speed. Am I going crazy? or did the book writers just assume that it had the same options as a Chevelle? In that case i see how it would be easy to pull off a fake 4 speed SS since most people would also assume it would be an option carried over from the Chevelle line. What do you think? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 we would love to see one, but a documented one has yet to be found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte70car Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 i know the red book has the 70 monte ss # added into the #'s for ss chevelles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Richey Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 This is one of those questions that people argue about to much. My personal opinion is this... Â No proof of one has ever been found, but no proof exist that I know of that says there never was one. Same goes for the LS6/auto version, and LS6 4-speed version. Â Lots of fast cars were wrecked and torn all to heck and crushed. If they was some of these rare gems made, they may be have done crushed years ago. Â I've heard my fair share of the LS6 cars and 4-speed cars have been seen. The question still lingers, these stories ARE NOT made up, the ?? is was these cars legit or just made cars with the LS6 or 4-speed added to them? That question may last unanswered 4-ever.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughn Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 They did produce 402 and 350 4 speed Montes. No proof of any SS454 4 speed as of yet!! Â Â Vaughn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I have talked to many people who SWEAR that they have seen a documented SS454 Monte with a 4-speed. According to all of our information from GM, none were made. Nobody here has ever seen any documentaion of a 4 speed SS454. It is just like the people who swear they know someone who has seen one of the production 1970 factory rag tops... again, no proof Until we see absolute truth of a well documented convertible or 4 speed SS454 we will assume they don't exist. I also have seen some of the books you talk about and since it is in more than one book we assume they are stealing informaiton from each other. Rob  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripleydale Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I'd like to see the proof in the form of a build sheet or a VIN matching on the tranny. I have a Muscle Car Enthusiast magazine from May 2006 that shows a 71 4spd (M22 to boot) SS owned by Rick Treworgy of Punta Gorda FL. Maybe we should track him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katman Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 If you want to call him, here is Rick Treworgy's number courtesy of switchboard.com  941) 639-5712  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve G Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 It scares the hell out of me how fast you guys track people down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Gray SS Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 try zabasearch.com and see what info is out there. Â I found an old Navy buddy by remembering he was from Ohio and located one of his relatives there using zaba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7tonemonte Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 It scares the hell out of me how fast you guys track people down. Is that why you changed your thoughts on the website? We know where you live!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Auto Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Steve, for what it is worth, I have an old 1979 Road and Track that has an ad for a 5 speed 79 Cutlass. Good intentions, but obviously never made production. Â Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I have heard of a '71 402/4 spd that had the SS trim on the back, but none of the SS badges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I have heard of a '71 402/4 spd that had the SS trim on the back, but none of the SS badges  Sam, That you may have heard from me. I know a guy here in Pittsburgh who owns the car. It has the black painted area below the trunk like the SS and it has the black rubber strip which runs across teh rear bumper. That car also has the air ride suspension, guages, special steering wheel and many other items. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I didn't want to drop any names, but since you said it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstadter Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 What a coincidence - today a friend sent me a link to this fantastic GM car collection owned by Rick Treworgy.  Here's the link: http://69.89.25.185/~trexsoft/t-rexsoftware.com/buzzandjackie/collection.htm  I don't see the pics of the 4spd SS454 that was in the magazine, but I do remember reading the article.  Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Richey Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Wow. Â What a collection. Anyone see this month's issue of Hot Rod Magazine? There are some nice collections in there also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyb Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 OMG. I just had an accident. Check out the car collection. Mean while, I need to go change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve G Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 IM NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL!!!!!! not even one Chevette!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capri's 71 SS Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 WOW, Does this Rick guy have a job??? It must be a full time job just to take these cars out & drive them regularly as the article stated. Incredible to have that kind of money AND a storage facilty to house it all! Wonder what he pays yearly in insurance costs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7tonemonte Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 That collection is just incredible, some people have that many die cast cars and its expensive and considered a sickness, but real ones.....thats amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7tonemonte Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Seems like he is a bit of a GM fan also huh??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam (Bones) Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 if you go to the picture of the two chevelle convertables (red & yellow) the black car (in front of the yellow chevelle) looks to be a monte, you can just catch a glimpse of the hood ornament, looks like a '71 Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I think you're right Sam, good eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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