Canuck Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 My family has always had BFG RWL tires on my cars dating back 40 years but with the brown letters issue I’m looking to switch brands. I need tires for my 71 SS. I really like the Firestone Wide Oval radials that Coker sells but I don’t have the budget for those. Are people happy with their Cooper Cobra tires? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC1of80 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 My son has them on his 71. He likes them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall72 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Canuck said: My family has always had BFG RWL tires on my cars dating back 40 years but with the brown letters issue I’m looking to switch brands. I need tires for my 71 SS. I really like the Firestone Wide Oval radials that Coker sells but I don’t have the budget for those. Are people happy with their Cooper Cobra tires? I'm also looking at the Wide Ovals from Coker, but man oh man....So EXPENSIVE! Also looking at the 3/8 inch white wall that Diamondback Tire makes. Just cant make up my mind though... I swear there should be a class action lawsuit at this point with those BFG tires. Pretty much everyone is having the brown letter tire issue now. What size tires are you looking at Canuck? I know our cars call for the G70 size, but those 60 series Wide Ovals are a better width in my opinion. I just don't want it through off my speedometer too much though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC-71 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I like the Cooper tires but I don’t like the raised white letters on them. I feel the letters are too large to my liking. Just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 I’m going with 235/70/15s because I want a 28 inch tall tire. This is the same height as the G78-15. I have 3.73 rear gears and I want the height to bring my RPM down slightly on the highway. I too find the letters a little big on the Coopers but there aren’t many options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leghome Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I have never had Coopers on my Monte but when I replace tires on my regular vehicles I almost always use Copper Tires and have never had a problem with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangeba Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 April 2007 I purchased 4 Cooper 225/70/15 thin single WSW tires from Diamond Back Classics in S.C. 888-922-1642. I did not like the large black letters, so Diamond Back shaved then off and shipped them to me all for $416.00. I don't think Cooper makes the single thin stripe anymore. (not that you asked about them) Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Bad454 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hey guys check this out in regards to tires browning. Tire sidewalls turn brown mainly because of an element added to the rubber called antiozonant. It saves tires from premature drying and cracking due to the process of oxidation. Tire browning is usually called blooming. It’s a continuing process that can be prevented by thoroughly cleaning and protecting the tires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Well there’s some of us here that can attest to the fact that they do not come clean. One member has had three sets just in the past year and all have brown letters that do not come clean. Here is the answer I got from BF Goodrich regarding the brown letter tires. I asked if they resolved the issue and can assure me it won’t happen again. We cannot assure you this won't happen, what we can assure you is that if happens, we will take care of it. The source of the tires discoloration can be varied. One possibility is that the tires contain an anti-ozone agent in their rubber compounds to slow down the ill effects of exposure to ozone in the air. This anti-ozone ingredient will migrate to the surface of the rubber and leave the appearance of a brownish dust. The browning is the normal functioning of the anti-oxidants in the rubber that prevent ozone cracking. While it's not pretty to look at, it can likely be washed off and it is a sign that the compound is working to defend from ozone cracking. Other possibilities for discoloration can be simply dust that is picked up from normal driving or brake dust which is generated by the abrasion of the brake pads against the brake rotor. This latter condition is more prevalent when the brakes are new or have recently been relined. In all cases, we recommend that you continue to clean your tires with a mild soap and water. If the problem persists, then you would need to present the vehicle to an authorized tire dealer for inspection and have the dealer call us while you are there. If we can assist you further, please respond to this email or call us at 888-871-4444 (toll-free) between 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. EST Monday through Friday. We appreciate your business and thank you for choosing BFGoodrich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bell Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Doing a second coat today. Sharpie oil based paint marker. Shake it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob 71 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I use futura tires from pep boys handle/ride good. I put white letters in still have some blue on letters and a lot of dirt never tried to clean. I like black side walls on alum rims on black car. I use black magic tire wet foam after washing doesn't look greasy after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jft69z Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I used to have BFG Radial TAs on the cars years ago (80's & 90's) and seem to remember they used to turn brown even back then. I think I used that Westley's Bleche-white on them to brighten up the letters at a friends suggestion. Worked to some degree, but they always turned brown again. I think I used brillo pads on the letters too in an effort to clean them, same results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leghome Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Must be something in the rubber they use. My Blackwell’s brown over the winter but they clean every spring and never turn brown in the summer but that might be because they get treated all summer with tire dressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 The end result. I like them. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall72 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I ended up going with the Diamond Back 3/8 inch whitewall. Took me a while to get used to whitewalls again after 25 years of running white letters but I've grown quite fond of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Peters Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I love them! They look real sweet and I love the stance of your monte. rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970mcss Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Gives the car a classy look 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtret Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I was debating on white walls but couldn’t pull the trigger. I went with the BFG’s. I’ll paint the letters. Which sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangeba Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Looks perfect! What tire brand, B.F.G. or Goodyear, Firestone? I assume the WSW is "bonded" to the tire? May I ask the price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall72 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 6:13 PM, stangeba said: Looks perfect! What tire brand, B.F.G. or Goodyear, Firestone? I assume the WSW is "bonded" to the tire? May I ask the price? They are Milestar and yes the WSW are bonded. Happy with the ride. They weren't cheap, right at 1200 shipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangeba Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Munday Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I switched to Cooper tires 2 yrs. ago and have been happy them. BFG tires were old and new ones had problems with off color RWL. They were also a lot more expensive. I got mine from Discount Tires and shipping was free. Jay and Jenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangeba Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 it's been over 18,000 miles and 14 years already since I got a set of COOPER tires with the thin WSW. I didn't like the huge letters that were on the tires and called to talk to Diamond back where they took a set of Cooper's, ground off all the huge letters and shipped them to me for less than I was going to pay a local store for the same tire (with the huge letters). Last time I looked, Cooper didn't sell these anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420ponies Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Diamond backs with redlines. Cooper radial tread on front,Motto drag facials on rear. I don't like them, Love'm !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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